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> Which will be faster?, My 914-4 or 911-6?
ppickerell
post Mar 17 2005, 10:58 PM
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My 914 will be finished soon. It will be a 2056, with a mild cam and headers but will maintain stock FI. I also have the pleasure of owning an driving for the past six months a 135K mile stock 78 911SC 3.0. My question is which car will be quicker? Is the 914's relatively lower weight enough to overcome it's lower HP? Will I finish this pricey mechanical rehab on the 914 only to lust for more power?
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:00 PM
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:00 PM
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The 911 will be faster, but the 914 will feel faster. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

2056 is pretty fun. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:04 PM
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I am pretty sure the 911 will be faster. 911SC is around 2900lb/180hp = 16.1lb/hp. 914 will be around 2000/110hp = 18.2lb/hp. So the 914 will be slower.

The 911 will also have more torque which will make it feel even faster.

PS: That fuel injection will probably need some modifications to accomodate the 2056.
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:10 PM
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Straight line, the 911's got ya.
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:46 PM
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Like others said, depends on what you mean by quicker.

Your 914 will run circles around a stock SC on the autocross course.

But in a drag race the 911 will probably win (although not by much).

911 will beat it on top speed too (but who cares about that).

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post Mar 17 2005, 11:50 PM
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The better question is: which one will be more "fun"? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif)
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (ppickerell @ Mar 17 2005, 08:58 PM)
Will I finish this pricey mechanical rehab on the 914 only to lust for more power?

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post Mar 17 2005, 11:54 PM
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:57 PM
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post Mar 18 2005, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Demick @ Mar 17 2005, 09:46 PM)
911 will beat it on top speed too (but who cares about that).

My goal is to get the 914-turbo to a higher speed than my M3. I'm still running without the intercooler, and my injectors are too small, but I'm already within 19mph. My goal is to have the worlds fastest 1.7l 914 with 100,000 miles on stock internals. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

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post Mar 18 2005, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Mar 17 2005, 10:04 PM)
I am pretty sure the 911 will be faster. 911SC is around 2900lb/180hp = 16.1lb/hp. 914 will be around 2000/110hp = 18.2lb/hp. So the 914 will be slower.

FWIW, a stock SC weighs around 2600 lbs. and most 914s weigh more than 2000lbs. The SC will still be a lot faster than a 914/2056 with 100-110hp.

2600/180hp = 14.4lb/hp
2100/110hp = 19.1lb/hp

Still, I find my 914 more fun than my SC on a twisty back road or AX course. It feels more tossable and is a lot easier to drive near the limit. The SC is a better cruiser, more comfortable, and puts a nice smile on your face when put you smash the accelerator.
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post Mar 18 2005, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (anthony @ Mar 17 2005, 10:56 PM)


Still, I find my 914 more fun than my SC on a twisty back road or AX course. It feels more tossable and is a lot easier to drive near the limit. The SC is a better cruiser, more comfortable, and puts a nice smile on your face when put you smash the accelerator.

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post Mar 18 2005, 11:01 AM
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Fastest? After some thought ont he subject, In a free fall my bet would be on our rear engined brother winning. The tail heavy 911 would likely assume a tail first dive if sent out of an airplane, the car would be fairly airodymanic in that position. The 914 with its mid center of gravity would I think be more prone to an unstable tumble as it dashes towards Earth. The tumble would reduce the speed for airodynamic reasons.


Now to be practical, on a winding road, the 914 can out run most other cars, and that can include the 911 with lots of HP more than the 914, agian engine placement being the reason, but for a different reason than in the prior example.
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post Mar 18 2005, 11:05 AM
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Swap engines. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Sell the 911 as a "Rare" 912 on eBay! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 18 2005, 11:26 AM
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I will never be drag racing them so who cares about straight line speed. The few times I AX'ed my 914 while it was at 1.7 I truly did feel like I could throw it full speed into any corner. When I ran my SC it was fighting me all the way. Yet when I hit a nice wide on ramp to a clear freeway I appreciate the SC's grunt! I know I will enjoy the 2056 but I already regret not going six and I haven't even driven the car yet!
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post Mar 18 2005, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 18 2005, 09:05 AM)
Swap engines. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Sell the 911 as a "Rare" 912 on eBay! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

I have a line on a 3.2 carrera six that I think I will just tuck away for now. I can't see molesting the SC, it is too nice! I removed the center console for my big foot and that was bad enough.
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post Mar 18 2005, 01:26 PM
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Whoa! talking /6 before you've even driven your new car? enjoy what you got for a while. it'll be fun, and not blindingly fast, and that's okay!

if you need to go faster, start ditching weight.
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post Mar 18 2005, 03:30 PM
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Don't spend much time worrying over it.

Take that thing out and flog it. When you reach the point where you feel the lack of power is holding you back, then decided what you want to do......that should keep you busy for a couple years. By then, you'll also know if you really wanna get serious about AX.
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post Mar 18 2005, 03:31 PM
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