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johnpierre
post Jan 22 2016, 11:30 AM
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Hey everyone

It is time to dedicate some attention to my, well, you already know don't you. I am looking to replace the original (yes original) carpet. I have been looking on Ebay and can't really tell what the quality is like of the kits that are available. I found one for 75.00 but the seller gave it a 5 out of 10.

There is a supplier in OC califormia that I have spoken to that restores everything porsche and they have the original wool loop kit in original colors but that kit was over 500.00

Does anyone have a recommendation? I want to spend about 150.00 for a charcoal grey or black kit that will fit properly and look not like a crappy after market product until I can afford the real deal.

Any thoughts?

thx -jp-

ps I have a 73 1.7 fuel injected model
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post Feb 12 2016, 01:56 PM
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jp -

It looks like your interior was the same or similar to my 73 2L's #31 Beige, but not sure if your carpet was the regular OE Tan/Beige or the OE Dark Tan - which looks like oatmeal with a mix of the tan & brown loop pile yarns in a speckled pattern, but it looks just a tad darker than straight tan & therefore didn't show the dirt as much.

You can see the difference at Jeff Bowlsby's pic link below between #502 Tan & #503 Dark Tan (but the camera coloration is off) from the 74 MY (he has no 73 MY stuff....yet) -

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zPF_74F3.jpg

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/PaintFabrics.htm

You can rill out those metal rivets with a small drill bit which is about the size of the dimple in the center of the rivet or slightly bigger. Not too big & keep the drill/bit straight in all 3-axis - or you'll enlarge the hole too much & the new plastic rivets will be loose.

Plastic rivets were original & still available in clear, even from Porsche (also used in 911/912/etc. so they keep them around), but the originals were white for the aluminum thresholds & black for the black plastic thresholds.

I think they used the metal rivets over the years - even at Porsche+Audi dealers back in the day, because they were readily available & seen as stronger - so seen as an improvement.

Now to the "while I'm in there" part....

So while you're drilling & removing/replacing rivets there - get some extra rivets so you can do all of the rivets along both rocker panels, then unscrew the slotted cheesehead screws along the bottoms (or they may have substituted other screw types).

Then remove those rocker panels on both L & R in order to clean the crud out from behind them & to inspect your longitudenals behind them for rust damage - you'll be surprised how much dirt & crud gets up behind there - a supposedly sealed space, especially on the right/curbside.

And if any rust, there's yet another project you'll want to get them repaired by yourself if you're a competent welder/body worker or by a good body shop, because those are the 914's main structural elements - "frame" if you will - long-wise along the unibody structure.

Speaking of drilling & replacing rivets - I'm hoping for a windless weekend so I can re-rivet some of the aluminum belly pans on our vintage 1960 Avion T20 trailer (like an Airstream) this weekend .... or at least before our next vintage trailer event in March! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

PS - If I missed any of your questions, just post them again below.

The close up pix of your floor mat sections look like the Dark Tan, but the center tunnel section may be Tan - not sure from the pix, but if different - a PO could've gotten the dark tan after the originals wore out for less dirt show, or because the dealer only had that color.

When I got mine in `75 the OO had put in black driver & passenger floor mat sections (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) so I put brown/tan coco mats over them since they were 1/2 the cost of OE Porsche floor mats new - since I was just out of college a year or so & already eating PBJ & Mac & Cheese to afford my 914!

Also in looking at your Seats you'll have #500 Corduroy seat inserts, so your interior code would be #32 IIRC (don't have the old Porsche doc handy now - my #31 was with basketweave vinyl inserts like on your doors).

And looking at your floor sections from under the carpet, it looks like yours was L65K Ravenna Green originally (see links below) - so if you ever repaint, then you might consider going back to it since it & Delphi Green Metallic look really sharp with the Beige interiors!

http://p914.com/p914_paint_L65K_73.htm

http://p914.com/p914_paint_73.htm

It was a Ravenna or Delphi Green with Beige pic on the cover of my "Porsche 914 & 914-6 - The Definitive History of the Road & Competition Cars" by Brian Long that made me drool over any green 914 - being a blue car guy myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/pictures.abebooks.com-10181-1455328569.1.jpg)

Also if you ever want to add more original looking alloy wheels to your 1.7 - the Pedrini & Mahle "Baby Gasburner" 4-lug wheels look very sharp (see the O&H Forum's nailed topic on OE Wheels & Tires for pix of both - I like the Mahles a bit better myself), or even Fuchs @L 4-lugs.

Or if you prefer period correct aftermarket wheels - both the classic & 80's repop Riviera 5 spoke/4-lug & modern versions of the classic 8-spoke/4-lug Competition wheel look alloys by Revolution, Enkei & others look great too. Or just keep your streamliner hubcaps if you like those best.

Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Feb 12 2016, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Feb 12 2016, 11:56 AM) *

jp -

It looks like your interior was the same or similar to my 73 2L's #31 Beige, but not sure if your carpet was the regular OE Tan/Beige or the OE Dark Tan - which looks like oatmeal with a mix of the tan & brown loop pile yarns in a speckled pattern, but it looks just a tad darker than straight tan & therefore didn't show the dirt as much.

You can see the difference at Jeff Bowlsby's pic link below between #502 Tan & #503 Dark Tan (but the camera coloration is off) from the 74 MY (he has no 73 MY stuff....yet) -

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zPF_74F3.jpg

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/PaintFabrics.htm

You can rill out those metal rivets with a small drill bit which is about the size of the dimple in the center of the rivet or slightly bigger. Not too big & keep the drill/bit straight in all 3-axis - or you'll enlarge the hole too much & the new plastic rivets will be loose.

Plastic rivets were original & still available in clear, even from Porsche (also used in 911/912/etc. so they keep them around), but the originals were white for the aluminum thresholds & black for the black plastic thresholds.

I think they used the metal rivets over the years - even at Porsche+Audi dealers back in the day, because they were readily available & seen as stronger - so seen as an improvement.

Now to the "while I'm in there" part....

So while you're drilling & removing/replacing rivets there - get some extra rivets so you can do all of the rivets along both rocker panels, then unscrew the slotted cheesehead screws along the bottoms (or they may have substituted other screw types).

Then remove those rocker panels on both L & R in order to clean the crud out from behind them & to inspect your longitudenals behind them for rust damage - you'll be surprised how much dirt & crud gets up behind there - a supposedly sealed space, especially on the right/curbside.

And if any rust, there's yet another project you'll want to get them repaired by yourself if you're a competent welder/body worker or by a good body shop, because those are the 914's main structural elements - "frame" if you will - long-wise along the unibody structure.

Speaking of drilling & replacing rivets - I'm hoping for a windless weekend so I can re-rivet some of the aluminum belly pans on our vintage 1960 Avion T20 trailer (like an Airstream) this weekend .... or at least before our next vintage trailer event in March! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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johnpierre   I need carpet   Jan 22 2016, 11:30 AM
ndfrigi   914rubber.com   Jan 22 2016, 11:32 AM
mepstein   914rubber.com :agree: Unlike the other suggest...   Jan 22 2016, 04:02 PM
Jett   Bought a black German loop set last week from 914R...   Jan 22 2016, 12:39 PM
Tom_T   Three other additional sources to check - Autos I...   Jan 22 2016, 01:54 PM
Tom_T   There is a supplier in OC califormia that I have ...   Jan 22 2016, 02:00 PM
johnpierre   There is a supplier in OC califormia that I have...   Jan 22 2016, 11:47 PM
Tom_T   hey Tom the source in OC was called Auto Internat...   Jan 23 2016, 02:06 PM
johnpierre   hey Tom the source in OC was called Auto Interna...   Jan 24 2016, 03:25 PM
Tom_T   Tom wow your really know your stuff... thank...   Jan 25 2016, 11:59 AM
Mikey914   I use German imported square weave ans well as the...   Jan 22 2016, 03:46 PM
Tom_T   I use German imported square weave ans well as th...   Jan 22 2016, 05:26 PM
johnpierre   I use German imported square weave ans well as th...   Jan 23 2016, 12:01 AM
Larmo63   I was super happy with the Perlon set I bought on ...   Jan 22 2016, 06:22 PM
mepstein   I was super happy with the Perlon set I bought on...   Jan 22 2016, 08:20 PM
Elliot Cannon   Love those hub caps. :D   Jan 22 2016, 07:22 PM
Tom_T   Hey Elliot - do you mean, like these ones Pete Bro...   Jan 22 2016, 08:15 PM
Mikey914   No worries, Just to let you know I will be bringin...   Jan 22 2016, 11:34 PM
johnpierre   Hey everyone Thanks for tall the great and imfor...   Jan 22 2016, 11:58 PM
Mikey914   Yes I am. Sorry I haven't put the picture up y...   Jan 23 2016, 01:10 AM
RobW   I bought a set from Mikey for Dads car. Very happy...   Jan 25 2016, 12:14 PM
johnpierre   ok everyone the carpet experiment was a success. ...   Feb 10 2016, 01:03 PM
Tom_T   Any of the Porsche & other parts houses that h...   Feb 10 2016, 01:23 PM
johnpierre   Any of the Porsche & other parts houses that ...   Feb 10 2016, 01:50 PM
Tom_T   Hey Tom Ok I have seen those and like them. I li...   Feb 10 2016, 02:05 PM
ndfrigi   i bought my used floor mat from a member (Current ...   Feb 10 2016, 03:14 PM
johnpierre   i bought my used floor mat from a member (Current...   Feb 12 2016, 12:23 PM
Tom_T   i bought my used floor mat from a member (Current...   Feb 12 2016, 03:33 PM
turk22   I like the Coco Mat's, indestructible   Feb 10 2016, 05:33 PM
johnpierre   I like the Coco Mat's, indestructible th...   Feb 12 2016, 12:24 PM
Tom_T   Steve - I love the black with the offsetting white...   Feb 10 2016, 06:28 PM
johnpierre   ok everyone here is a little catch up on the carpe...   Feb 12 2016, 12:28 PM
johnpierre   more of the misery....   Feb 12 2016, 12:30 PM
johnpierre   just a bit of paint to cover the old color until i...   Feb 12 2016, 12:31 PM
johnpierre   and now for the finished product :Qarl:   Feb 12 2016, 12:34 PM
johnpierre   mas...   Feb 12 2016, 12:34 PM
johnpierre   Now as you can see i replaced the inside threshold...   Feb 12 2016, 12:46 PM
Tom_T   jp - It looks like your interior was the same or...   Feb 12 2016, 01:56 PM
johnpierre   jp - It looks like your interior was the same o...   Feb 12 2016, 01:59 PM
johnpierre   BTW I just ordered a new red handle for the heate...   Feb 12 2016, 02:03 PM
Tom_T   BTW I just ordered a new red handle for the heat...   Feb 12 2016, 03:04 PM
johnpierre   [quote name='johnpierre' post='2302218' date='Feb...   Feb 13 2016, 11:32 AM
bigkensteele   BTW I just ordered a new red handle for the heat...   Feb 12 2016, 05:50 PM
johnpierre   BTW I just ordered a new red handle for the hea...   Feb 13 2016, 11:40 AM
johnpierre   Me and my 914...   Feb 12 2016, 02:06 PM
Tom_T   Me and my 914... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/upl...   Feb 12 2016, 03:13 PM
johnpierre   [quote name='johnpierre' post='2302219' date='Feb...   Feb 13 2016, 12:08 PM
Mike Fitton   Here are my mats from Lloyd's called Tru-Berbe...   Feb 12 2016, 02:08 PM
johnpierre   Here are my mats from Lloyd's called Tru-Berb...   Feb 12 2016, 02:28 PM
Tom_T   Here are my mats from Lloyd's called Tru-Berb...   Feb 12 2016, 03:47 PM
johnpierre   Here are my mats from Lloyd's called Tru-Ber...   Feb 13 2016, 11:46 AM
Tom_T   Ken - I got some from vendors over on TheSamba.c...   Feb 12 2016, 06:41 PM
Tom_T   Ooops! Duplicate post! :blink:   Feb 12 2016, 06:42 PM
Tom_T   jp - In case you missed this where I added it to ...   Feb 12 2016, 07:59 PM
johnpierre   jp - In case you missed this where I added it to...   Feb 13 2016, 12:10 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='2302376' date='Feb 12 2...   Feb 13 2016, 12:26 PM
johnpierre   hey Mark I need the rubber seal for the doors on...   Feb 14 2016, 12:40 PM
Mikey914   Those are the inner door seals on the pinch weld a...   Feb 14 2016, 12:56 PM
johnpierre   Those are the inner door seals on the pinch weld ...   Feb 14 2016, 01:23 PM
Tom_T   :idea: .... El Nino!? :confused: .... just sa...   Feb 14 2016, 01:31 PM
johnpierre   ok everyone here is a another bit of and update. ...   Feb 14 2016, 03:17 PM


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