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> Valvoline VR1 on sale....
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post Feb 24 2016, 11:10 AM
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Still works today. $4.19 after disc
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post Feb 24 2016, 12:21 PM
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What weight do you guys use? I'm in central Missouri.
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post Feb 24 2016, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(Big Len @ Feb 23 2016, 07:04 PM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Feb 23 2016, 03:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Len @ Feb 23 2016, 02:50 PM) *

Just curious....Why would you want to run conventional when the synthetic has the exact same amounts of additives including zinc and phosohorus counts of 1400 ppm?


Oh Lawd.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

There are so many threads on that it's not even funny

Start by googling synthetic oil in old Porsche engines (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


I didn't realize my question was so funny. Perhaps someone with more of a brain than a funny bone can answer my question.


Here are the first three I came across:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=249898
http://lnengineering.com/resources/2014/02...bs-racing-oils/
http://www.randbaldwin.com/index.php/914-and-oils/

The short answer is: Use whatever Jake Raby says (and you need to stay current, what he said 10 years ago does not apply today).
He has done more Oil research for these cars than anyone else I know of.
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post Feb 24 2016, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Feb 24 2016, 01:55 PM) *
The short answer is: Use whatever Jake Raby says (and you need to stay current, what he said 10 years ago does not apply today).

So, forgive my curiosity...if Raby is recommending Joe Gibbs Driven, why are we getting all cranked up on a sales price for Valvoline VR1?
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post Feb 24 2016, 03:24 PM
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I read the Raby, the LN, and several World threads and articles.

My question pertained to if you are using VR1, why would you choose the dino over the synthetic version? I called Valvoline and they said the formulation is the same with equal amounts of added zinc and phosphorus. So if that's true, is there something about synthetic oil that the previous people believe is ruinous to an older, air cooled Porsche motor? If that's true, consider that Driven is a synthetic and BP is a blend. Even Porsche's new classic oil is made for 356's, 911's, and 914's and is synthetic.

I drive 4000 miles a year strictly for pleasure and change the oil once a year. I feel I don't need to pay the exorbitant price of a quart of Driven when BP or VR1 will do fine.

BTW - Penn oil is $77.00/case of 12 with free shipping on Amazon.

What am I missing here?
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post Feb 24 2016, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Feb 24 2016, 02:01 PM) *

QUOTE(stugray @ Feb 24 2016, 01:55 PM) *
The short answer is: Use whatever Jake Raby says (and you need to stay current, what he said 10 years ago does not apply today).

So, forgive my curiosity...if Raby is recommending Joe Gibbs Driven, why are we getting all cranked up on a sales price for Valvoline VR1?


In MY case I read all of the threads about various oils, and compared some test results and decided for my car VR1 is adequate.
And as frequently as I change my oil (race car) I was not going to spend the extra on Joe Gibbs or Brad Penn.

However I DID use Jakes break-in oil and first load after break-in with Jakes very own blend(s).
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post Feb 25 2016, 06:56 AM
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post Feb 25 2016, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Feb 25 2016, 07:56 AM) *

Executive Summary?
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post Feb 25 2016, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Feb 25 2016, 05:46 AM) *

QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Feb 25 2016, 07:56 AM) *

Executive Summary?

- Valvoline VR1 Conventional: Outstanding performance at normal (230 degrees) operating temperatures, effectiveness breaks down at elevated (275 degrees) temps

- Joe Gibbs: LS30 and DT40 were outstanding, BR30 finished dead last

- Brad Penn: None of the Penn Grade 1 oils did well in these tests


Shortcut: Go to the article and press the CONTROL key (COMMAND if using a Mac) and the F key simultaneously. Then type in VR1, Gibbs, etc. to quickly find where these oils placed in the rankings.

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post Feb 25 2016, 12:53 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too!
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How many here have rebuilt an engine based solely on an oil that was used in it?
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