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> Slightly OT: Bay Area Classic Car Painting Cost, $$$$$ Ouch
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post Mar 2 2016, 05:40 PM
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So I have been looking to buy a new project fun car, and found a really cool project (280z).

The problem is the car is a color that I dislike. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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In reaching out to many shops in the bay area for a color change ( windows out, but no engine compartment), the cheapest price I have found is $7,000!

I plan to pull everything off the car ( but the glass) before going to the shop.

Note: This car is rust free and has no body damage ( original owner since new, and the paint still looks good).

Any connections out there for driver quality paint work at 5 grand or below?

Once shop quoted me $12k! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)


Thanks for the collective advice,

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post Mar 2 2016, 05:50 PM
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That's a toughie. Do a wrap?
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:03 PM
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That $7-112k sounds about the going rate for here in OC/SoCal from a quality shop for a color change - which then adds more spots to repaint (door jambs, trunk or hatch edges in this case, engine bay, etc.) - unless you do a crappy MAACO or 1 Day or Earl Scheib type half-fast paint job.

If you do a color change, I recco you stick with their factory color, but then again, it may also have another more likable color under the yellow, if a PO did a color change.

The cheapest route may be to pay for therapy to help you get used to yellow! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:04 PM
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What's wrong with yellow/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:04 PM
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I am certainly considering it.

Somehow I think the combination of CA environmental expenses, Bay Area cost of living and fear of an old car is upping the cost.

Maybe tow it down to LA or out of state to save a 2-3 grand.

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That's a toughie. Do a wrap?
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:13 PM
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Yellow is for cabs and school bus paint jobs...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know lots of the people that feel the same about red.

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What's wrong with yellow/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:15 PM
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1st, and most important: Remove the glass.

Next: $5k is the going rate in FL for a solid paint job, so $7k in NorCal would probably get you the same.

Any color change is very expensive. If you cheap out on a color change, you will very seriously devalue your car.
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(matthepcat @ Mar 2 2016, 04:13 PM) *

Yellow is for cabs and school bus paint jobs...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know lots of the people that feel the same about red.

QUOTE(RobW @ Mar 2 2016, 04:04 PM) *

What's wrong with yellow/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)



Submarines too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 07:10 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Joe. I would imagine cost of materials and the added CA regulations are where the premium comes from in California. No VOC paints anymore, correct? Might *even* be worth trailering the car out of state to get it painted and you'll also be able to go with a non-water-based paint. Last I heard CA had/was moving to all water-based-paints, which despite the good things I've heard, are fairly new.
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post Mar 2 2016, 07:21 PM
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Better call Maaco! Of Earl Shibe

$7k sounds reasonable. You should pull the motor too and interior. Actually Miracle in Pleasanton does lots of muscle cars and quality work. They quoted me $3500 a couple years ago for the 914. I pull all the glass (strip the car) and they would put a less than show quality job on the car. Show quality can run big $$$ depending on your needs.
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post Mar 2 2016, 07:32 PM
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Personally, Luv the yellow...finding another car in a color you like is cheaper.

Go beyond the Bay Area. In Santa Cruz its cheaper, and you can do single stage like the original.
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post Mar 2 2016, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Mar 2 2016, 06:32 PM) *

Personally, Luv the yellow...finding another car in a color you like is cheaper.

Go beyond the Bay Area. In Santa Cruz its cheaper, and you can do single stage like the original.




Santa Cruz cheaper, doubt that. Maybe Watson or Salinas…
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:00 PM
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If you don't like that color, find another car. You better love it b/c you won't see half your money back unless Z cars start getting crazy money.
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(matthepcat @ Mar 2 2016, 08:13 PM) *

Yellow is for cabs and school bus paint jobs...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I know lots of the people that feel the same about red.

QUOTE(RobW @ Mar 2 2016, 04:04 PM) *

What's wrong with yellow/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)



Not sure how much you know about these cars, but judging by the hood, that's a 77 or 78. In which case it may be a Zap Z. Between the Zap Z and the Black Pearl, they are the only limited edition models Datsun made in the first generation. Very conceivable that the stripes have been taken off in almost 40 years since new. These stripes have been reproduced and are available. Other tell-tale signs of Zap Z or Black Pearl models are a matching passenger side mirror and rear louvre red sun shade.

If there's a chance this is a Zap Z, don't change the color!


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post Mar 2 2016, 08:33 PM
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Sounds like it is time for a road trip....that is outrageous for any paint job.
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:50 PM
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Personally, I would bring the paint back to its best possible condition and drive it for awhile. You may learn to like it. I hated the color of my current 914 until my cousin and I spent an afternoon polishing and waxing it. After we were done, I loved it. It still needs a paint job, but I am staying with Laguna Blau.
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post Mar 2 2016, 09:23 PM
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It takes at least 100 hours start to finish for a single man assuming little bodywork for a shop quality job. Then you have about 1500 in materials/consumables for decent stuff and 600-1k for cheap stuff. So ya.

Mayco will do a decent job for around 3k, but you have to talk to them in detail about it an agree to extra layers of base and clear, having their expert painter spray it, and for them to do a coat of primer before hand and finish it with a good cut and buff.


Ive had requests to paint cars but being to busy to take on any job like that I always just reccomend going to Mayco.
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7K? Pffft I paid that for non-color change in the bay area 20 years ago... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) I just got a quote from a shop for body work on a reasonable clean six (already completly stripped and no re-assembly) He wanted 25K before paint. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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Did that price include pulling off the ugly 70s side molding and filing in the holes that are no doubt running down each side.

I have passed on many a car because of aftermarket 70s side molding.
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post Mar 3 2016, 12:51 AM
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Thanks for the replies all! Details on the car:

1975 and the original color was a gold color. (So a color change is no big deal)

What's cool about the car is a JDM RB25DET fresh rebuild with forged internals. (445hp on low boost 91 pump gas tune)

Interior is pristine and body in excellent shape.

Obviously im not concerned about originality. The vents in the hood are aftermarket for heat control and a vent for the wastegate.

Prices quote did not include any hole filling for side molding removal.
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