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Sport Muffler Fab Question, best methods |
tomrev |
Apr 4 2016, 02:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 25-February 14 From: N. Mich. Member No.: 17,037 Region Association: None |
Some background: My 914 has gone from a 383Chevy, to a 283, and now Honda 3.5 V-6 engine. A backwards power curve. The Chevy's just didn't sound the way I wanted the car to sound, so the move to the Honda. When it was finished, I re-cut, and re-made a system for the Honda using the twin Dynomax mufflers from the Chevy system, with 2 1/2in main pipes into the mufflers, and 3in. exit pipes. Kind of big for a 3.5, but it was 304 stainless, and I already had it. The car sounded quiet at idle, and glorious at open throttle, a cross between an NSX and a big 911. However, at cruise, and mid revs, ( 2K to 2800) it was pretty boomy, drony, too much so. I took it apart, re-did the pipes, and used a stock early 70's Leitritz banana muffler. Now it is too quiet! My current plan is to convert it to a sport muffler, and not having built one for 25 years, I'm asking those who have if they were able to make them without being too loud, or if a twin in, twin out is inherently going to drone. In my pile of stuff I have some 304 pipe in 2 1/2in. OD. Would this be too big for the exit side? Most sport's seem to have the exit pipes about 12-14in. apart, from the center; are there any inner chambers I can not fuch up by locating the exit pipes in a certain spot? Thanks! (photo of the Chevy system)
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mgp4591 |
Apr 4 2016, 11:28 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,376 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Someone not too long ago took similar mufflers to your Dynomax and ran 90 degree elbows toward the rear center and welded them to a large diameter long glasspack, then drilled two large outlets for tailpipes exiting center about 6 inches apart. He claims the sound was just right- I wish I could remember the builder but I'm too lazy to look it up and it's past my bedtime... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
And looked cool as hell. |
tomrev |
Apr 5 2016, 05:25 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 25-February 14 From: N. Mich. Member No.: 17,037 Region Association: None |
Someone not too long ago took similar mufflers to your Dynomax and ran 90 degree elbows toward the rear center and welded them to a large diameter long glasspack, then drilled two large outlets for tailpipes exiting center about 6 inches apart. He claims the sound was just right- I wish I could remember the builder but I'm too lazy to look it up and it's past my bedtime... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif) And looked cool as hell. Would be interesting how he fit all that back there; would be cool to see it from underneath. The big reason I reverted to the Leitritz was packaging, to take advantage of the original design, and weight is pretty light. Thanks! |
76-914 |
Apr 5 2016, 07:37 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,504 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
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Mueller |
Apr 5 2016, 10:53 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Some background: My 914 has gone from a 383Chevy, to a 283, and now Honda 3.5 V-6 engine. A backwards power curve. The Chevy's just didn't sound the way I wanted the car to sound, so the move to the Honda. When it was finished, I re-cut, and re-made a system for the Honda using the twin Dynomax mufflers from the Chevy system, with 2 1/2in main pipes into the mufflers, and 3in. exit pipes. Kind of big for a 3.5, but it was 304 stainless, and I already had it. The car sounded quiet at idle, and glorious at open throttle, a cross between an NSX and a big 911. However, at cruise, and mid revs, ( 2K to 2800) it was pretty boomy, drony, too much so. I took it apart, re-did the pipes, and used a stock early 70's Leitritz banana muffler. Now it is too quiet! My current plan is to convert it to a sport muffler, and not having built one for 25 years, I'm asking those who have if they were able to make them without being too loud, or if a twin in, twin out is inherently going to drone. In my pile of stuff I have some 304 pipe in 2 1/2in. OD. Would this be too big for the exit side? Most sport's seem to have the exit pipes about 12-14in. apart, from the center; are there any inner chambers I can not fuch up by locating the exit pipes in a certain spot? Thanks! (photo of the Chevy system) And a nice video of this glorious sound is where? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
tomrev |
Apr 5 2016, 11:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 25-February 14 From: N. Mich. Member No.: 17,037 Region Association: None |
Interesting reading; I will stick with the banana, and probably do the usual twin pipe exits. Just hope it doesn't revert to being too loud. |
rnellums |
Apr 5 2016, 01:53 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If drone in a specific Rev range is your issue look into a Helmholtz pipe. It's a flawless acoustic pipe designed to kill noise of a certain frequency. I'm going to try to implement it on my droney exhaust later this summer.
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