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| joeav8tor |
 Mar 29 2005, 08:23 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 23-January 05 From: mattituck, Long Island NY Member No.: 3,493  |
hi guys,
I have dropped my engine to do some preventative maintenance...I am going to install some push rod tube seals...do I use permatex on them...also got some valve cover gaskets...do I use it on them? thanks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Joe |
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| scotty b |
Mar 29 2005, 08:32 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
vaseline or anti seaze on the push rod seals. NEVER use any kind of "sealant" on them, they need to be able to move. As you install them turn them and once seated rotate them a little to make sure the seals seat properly. Permatex can be used on the valve covers but shouldn't be necessary. (I use RTV) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| Jake Raby |
Mar 29 2005, 08:53 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I disagree... I have found many flexible teflon sealants that work MUCH better than the grease trick. |
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| scotty b |
Mar 29 2005, 08:57 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I will bow to YOUR knowledge. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) Please enlighten us to their names?
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| Mueller |
Mar 29 2005, 09:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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you never heard of Permatex® ??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Jake Raby |
Mar 29 2005, 09:24 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Loctite 565.
Its available at my store. It's an integral part of my leak free engines. The factory may have designed the seals not to leak without sealants, they did a crappy job. |
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| beemie96 |
May 21 2005, 04:33 PM
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Is there a particular kind of Permatex to use? Or is the loctite 565 stuff the best? I just spent hours doing one side of the car, and it still leaks... of course... i put oil on the seals before I put them in, and did make sure to rotate them to 'seat' them... a couple of them seamed to rotate better than others, but they all seemed to 'seat'
So, do I put sealant on the cork gasket and the tube seals? |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
May 21 2005, 04:41 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Jake and I disagree here. Pretty rare when we do, but this is one of those times. I've been oiling them for 32 years now, and I find it workds just fine. I use the viton seals, clean everything really well, twist the tubes while installing, and never have leaks. I glue the VC gaskets to the valve covers with an old time product called "Gasgacinch". Find it in better REAL autoparts stores. You shouldn't be in those other ones anyway. Apply the sealant to the valve cover and the CORRECT side of the gasket, let'em air dry while you adjust the valves, then carefully put them together. Works great! Being able to pull them apart with relative ease is a bonus. The Cap'n
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