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fatlando	Mar 30 2005, 01:30 PM Post #1
Member Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-September 04 From: imperial beach, california Member No.: 2,700	and keep seeing auctions for "Front and Rear" Sway bars...What are they and do i need to replace them? I've been a 914 owner for a few years and have just started my OJT Apprenitceship as a wanna be 914 mechanic. just wondering.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

Mueller	Mar 30 2005, 01:37 PM Post #2
914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None	you might have them already........ do you have a Haynes manual yet? if so, it'll show you where to look for them on your car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) swaybars do not really wear out, the reason you see factory bars for sale is that someone upgraded (for aggressive driving or racing or bragging rights) or a car is being parted out and someone might be looking for a cheap upgrade from not having swaybars at all. there are aftermarket bars available, I say stay away from them until you know why you'd need them, it'll save you some money (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

JoeSharp	Mar 30 2005, 01:45 PM Post #3
In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States	Sway bars, anit roll device appllied to the front and rear suspension of the cars to improve handling. Front and rear sway bars (stock) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Joe Attached image(s)

Allan	Mar 30 2005, 01:47 PM Post #4
Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California	What ya gonna do with those sway bars Joe? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

fatlando

Mar 30 2005, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Mar 30 2005, 11:45 AM)

Sway bars, anit roll device appllied to the front and rear suspension of the cars to improve handling.
Front and rear sway bars (stock)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Joe

Joe,

thanx for the reply...by the way thats a mighty nice floor you got your sway bars on....

my wife would be envious!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Mueller

Mar 30 2005, 01:54 PM

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What are they

opps, missed that....basicly a "spring" that will try to keep the car level while cornering...lets say you make a hard left hand turn, the weight of the car will be leaning towards the passanger side of the vehicle, what the swaybar (or proper term, anti-sway bar) will do is "fight" this leaning and make the passanger side suspension stiffer in order to prevent the leaning......I'm sure someone could explain it better (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

JoeSharp	Mar 30 2005, 02:00 PM Post #7
In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States	Allan: Do you have any idea what kind of PARTS WHORE I AM. Fatlando: I don't have a wife of S.O. for that matter. So I'm in charge of the honey dos. Let me tell you man that list is SHORT. I get to let my 914 projects bump my house projects. Thanks. I like to get into my projects (the Travatine). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Joe

fatlando	Mar 30 2005, 02:00 PM Post #8
Member Group: Members Posts: 259 Joined: 6-September 04 From: imperial beach, california Member No.: 2,700	Mike, Thanx for the info....what i like about our cars is that technology will never ever invade our cars.....If you look at new cars today it's all bells and whistles and lights and i just scratch my head waiting for the cappucino to make... With ours.. it's straight metal and motor... cya fat lando

ArtechnikA	Mar 30 2005, 02:02 PM Post #9
rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None	it may help you to understand what they are if you think for a moment that they are properly called "anti-roll" bars -- but typically only pedantic types like myself call them that (and refer to "shock absorbers" by their proper name "spring dampers.") since they MOSTLY affect only roll, they are typically used to fine-tune a suspension or add additional roll resistance to a car in which resisting roll with springs alone would result in an excessively harsh ride. anti-roll bars are torsion bars that run, perpendicular to the axis of travel, from one wheel to its axle pair. by transferring weight from the 'inside' wheel to the 'outside' wheel in a turn, the body resists rolling. like Mike says - a proper bar won't wear out, although the bushings sometimes do. in the case of non-adjustable bars (e.g. factory...) people sometimes replace them with stiffer but adjustable bars so the suspension can be tuned for different venues. a car that is nimble and has good turn-in at an autocross will be 'twitchy' on a big track at very high speeds. most 914's benefit greatly from having SOME front anti-roll bar. the factory bar is quite light; there are racing parts that are very, very stiff. this does not make them BETTER unless you are racing. 914's are all about balance...

Dave_Darling	Mar 30 2005, 03:14 PM Post #10
914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,984 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California	Amen to that! There's a fairly detailed tech article on front sway bar installation on the Pelican Parts website. (See the URL in my signature, below.) There are pretty decent pictures, and it will give you an idea of where the front bar is and how it goes in. (In the future, the above is likely to be paraphrased, "Check the Bird site!") --DD