Stanford DPS is back on my case again, this time for real Options

[nebreitling]

so apparently, i've sufficiently pissed off the stanford DPS to the point that they are done with 'warnings'.

some time ago, they issued me a couple warnings for having my car up on ramps and "non-operational". they claimed this constituted and 'abandoned vehicle', and claimed the right to tow.

well, i took the car off ramps and moved it over a spot. problem solved.... until now.

put the car up to install the engine. engine installed, transaxle installed, axles are on the cv joints, everthing good to go except the exhaust (long story).

was gone ONE HOUR this afternoon, and i come back to find a red tow notice on my car! they have to go through a bunch of hassle to tow it apparently, so my 'tow date' is april 14th, but they can do it sooner if they wish. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bs.gif)

guess they don't want me working on my car here, huh?!


hey, stanford: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif)

[mightyohm]

Does it run? Drive it over to my place. It's only a couple of miles. Fuck Stanford.

You live on campus I guess? I am not surprised they don't want you working on cars. Gotta keep the campus image up otherwise Mr. and Mrs. Goodfornothing might stop making their donations... What a PITA.

[Joe Bob]

Yupz...best to make old rusty to disapear for awhile....

[TJB/914]

I have a solution.

Put a sign in the window "Liberal Owner" and put a "Kerry/Edwards" Bumper sticker on the bumper. That should help.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Stanford Sucks.

Tom

[Aaron Cox]

hmmm no ramps....

can you get away with jackstands covered in kerry edwars stickers? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

[nebreitling]

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Mar 30 2005, 05:34 PM)

Does it run? Drive it over to my place. It's only a couple of miles. Fuck Stanford. You live on campus I guess? I am not surprised they don't want you working on cars. Gotta keep the campus image up otherwise Mr. and Mrs. Goodfornothing might stop making their donations... What a PITA.

yes. fuck stanford, indeed.

no, it doesn't run, as i need to hassle with the exhaust a bit more (any one have some euro race header stub pipes laying around?) and install the carbs. fresh engine. BUT, i can tow it myself with my tow bar.

you have space on your driveway or something jeff where people won't be pissed? it only needs a few days away before i can gather the stub pipes and have everything i need to fire it.

[nebreitling]

or maybe i should drive it around w/out its exhaust... and see how quick they evict me... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)

[nebreitling]

not lovin' it

[Joe Ricard]

Hey I'm up for issuing an ass whooping. You point the guy out and he/she is toast. Hey wait a minute He/she could be one person huh? Umm never mind heard they lock people up out there for kickin ass even if it was deserved. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif)

[Joe Bob]

Look up the definition of abandoned vehicle in their rule/code book and if the circumstances don't meet the definition go in an talk to Dumbshitz boss and ask him...politely.... to explain why this guy is screwing with you.

[Joe Bob]

OK...two sections are quoted....

22523. (a) No person shall abandon a vehicle upon any highway.

((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) No person shall abandon a vehicle upon public or private property without the express or implied consent of the owner or person in lawful possession or control of the property.

© Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100) and shall provide proof that the costs of removal and disposition of the vehicle have been paid. No part of any fine imposed shall be suspended. The fine may be paid in installments if the court determines that the defendant is unable to pay the entire amount in one payment.

(d) Proof that the costs of removal and disposition of the vehicle have been paid shall not be required if proof is provided to the court that the vehicle was stolen prior to abandonment. That proof may consist of a police report or other evidence acceptable to the court.

(e) The costs required to be paid for the removal and disposition of any vehicle determined to be abandoned pursuant to Section 22669 shall not exceed those for towing and seven days of storage. This subdivision does not apply if the registered owner or legal owner has completed and returned to the lienholder a "Declaration of Opposition" form within the time specified in Section 22851.8.

(f) (1) If a vehicle is abandoned in violation of subdivision ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) and is not redeemed after impound, the last registered owner is guilty of an infraction. In addition to any other penalty, the registered owner shall be liable for any deficiency remaining after disposal of the vehicle under Section 3071 or 3072 of the Civil Code or Section 22851.10 of this code.

(2) The filing of a report of sale or transfer of the vehicle pursuant to Section 5602, the filing of a vehicle theft report with a law enforcement agency, or the filing of a form or notice with the department pursuant to subdivision ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) of Section 4456 or Section 5900 or 5901 relieves the registered owner of liability under this subdivision.

[Joe Bob]

Removal of Abandoned Vehicles


22669. (a) Any peace officer, as that term is defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, or any other employee of the state, county, or city designated by an agency or department of the state or the board of supervisors or city council to perform this function, in the territorial limits in which the officer or employee is authorized to act, who has reasonable grounds to believe that the vehicle has been abandoned, as determined pursuant to Section 22523, may remove the vehicle from a highway or from public or private property.

((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Any person performing a franchise or contract awarded pursuant to subdivision (a) of Section 22710, may remove a vehicle from a highway or place to which it has been removed pursuant to subdivision © of Section 22654 or from public or private property, after a determination by a peace officer, as that term is defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, or other designated employee of the state, county, or city in which the vehicle is located that the vehicle is abandoned, as determined pursuant to Section 22523.

© A state, county, or city employee, other than a peace officer or employee of a sheriff's department or a city police department, designated to remove vehicles pursuant to this section may do so only after he or she has mailed or personally delivered a written report identifying the vehicle and its location to the office of the Department of the California Highway Patrol located nearest to the vehicle.

(d) Motor vehicles which are parked, resting, or otherwise immobilized on any highway or public right-of-way and which lack an engine, transmission, wheels, tires, doors, windshield, or any other part or equipment necessary to operate safely on the highways of this state, are hereby declared a hazard to public health, safety, and welfare and may be removed immediately upon discovery by a peace officer or other designated employee of the state, county, or city.

[rick 918-S]

QUOTE ("Z" @ Mar 30 2005, 06:54 PM)

OK...two sections are quoted.... 22523.   (a) No person shall abandon a vehicle upon any highway. ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) No person shall abandon a vehicle upon public or private property without the express or implied consent of the owner or person in lawful possession or control of the property. © Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100) and shall provide proof that the costs of removal and disposition of the vehicle have been paid. No part of any fine imposed shall be suspended. The fine may be paid in installments if the court determines that the defendant is unable to pay the entire amount in one payment. (d) Proof that the costs of removal and disposition of the vehicle have been paid shall not be required if proof is provided to the court that the vehicle was stolen prior to abandonment. That proof may consist of a police report or other evidence acceptable to the court. (e) The costs required to be paid for the removal and disposition of any vehicle determined to be abandoned pursuant to Section 22669 shall not exceed those for towing and seven days of storage. This subdivision does not apply if the registered owner or legal owner has completed and returned to the lienholder a "Declaration of Opposition" form within the time specified in Section 22851.8. (f) (1) If a vehicle is abandoned in violation of subdivision ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) and is not redeemed after impound, the last registered owner is guilty of an infraction. In addition to any other penalty, the registered owner shall be liable for any deficiency remaining after disposal of the vehicle under Section 3071 or 3072 of the Civil Code or Section 22851.10 of this code. (2) The filing of a report of sale or transfer of the vehicle pursuant to Section 5602, the filing of a vehicle theft report with a law enforcement agency, or the filing of a form or notice with the department pursuant to subdivision ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) of Section 4456 or Section 5900 or 5901 relieves the registered owner of liability under this subdivision.

Ya, This is Stanford! Get one of the hot shot law students to help you file a harrasment suit against officer Snowden. That will learn him! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/alfred.gif) Or snow on the roof, or snow up the nose or what ever his name is.

The student could use the experience for a class credit!

[Trekkor]

Can you cover it?

Or...how about this?
Get one of those little Toyota mini motor homes, gut it, and slip it over the top so they don't see it anymore. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif)

KT

[rick 918-S]

Considering this is a classic Porsche, This could be a way to legally wrangle ownership of your vehicle. I'd call the supervisor and tell him you will hold the dept. leagally liable if his officer doesn't cease and desist. Then file a harrasment suit and request a restraining order stating officer nose candy can't come within 2 blocks of your parking space. That will fix you officer nose picker!

The law should work the same for you as it does against you. Take that Mr. officer den mother

[Type 4]

The best thing would be a car cover. Abandoned cars dont have covers.

[sgomes]

OH! OH! OH! I know! I know!!!!

Put some big-ass truck tires on it so that it's so fucking high you can work on it without jackstands!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flag.gif)

[GaroldShaffer]

QUOTE (Type 4 @ Mar 30 2005, 07:26 PM)

The best thing would be a car cover. Abandoned cars dont have covers.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) That is how I store parts cars in my driveway until I am ready to part it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) No problems and I had the same car in my driveway for 5 months covered like that. Everyone thought it was my "good" 914 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

[nebreitling]

yup, i've researched all the codes. basically, there is no legal definition for what constitutes an "abandoned vehicle". Officer Snowden keeps stating that the vehicle is non-operational -- implying that that is the issue -- which would essentially make illegal all mechanical maintenence.

but basically, if they want to fuck with you, they can fuck with you. i even had a lawyer look at it, and he says they can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want.

still, i'm going in tomorrow to have a (hopefully calm) chat with Snowden's supervisor.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/givemebeer.gif)

[Aaron Cox]

we need to have a 914 club phone call.... 1000 people calling officer snowden

lets fuck him right back! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)