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DE Tech Inspection, will this car pass? |
yarin |
Jun 18 2003, 12:18 PM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
If I do end up buying the red 914 near me that I mentioned in the other thread, will it pass DE Tech Inspection?? The hack job oil cooler worries me. Any thoughts??
(IMG:http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~yarin/Picts/914-bing/DSCN7122.jpg) (IMG:http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~yarin/Picts/914-bing/DSCN7118.jpg) (IMG:http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~yarin/Picts/914-bing/DSCN7117.jpg) Thanks! |
seanery |
Jun 18 2003, 12:40 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
If it were me, and I bought that car, I would replumb the oil lines to someplace safer, like behind the rocker panel cover. and use hard or braided lines. That looks a bit scary to me. Pickup one sharp rock and oil is gone.
Also, I'd move it where it needs to go. That hole looks like a good air exit hole as opposed to an inlet. That mayb be a low pressure area (correct me if I'm wrong). |
J P Stein |
Jun 18 2003, 01:17 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I'd be more worried about it passing the rust inspection. How's the top of the long below and in front of the battery tray?
There are entirely too many rusty surfaces visable in your pics....and no pics of the "hell hole" or around the jack posts. |
yarin |
Jun 18 2003, 01:22 PM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
Here are the other pics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~yarin/Picts/914-bing/
There is a whole thread about this car. I think I manged to capture everything. From what I can tell it is just surface rust. |
Kerrys914 |
Jun 18 2003, 01:23 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
Please....move those oil lines to behind the rocker covers as mentioned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
It looks like the PO used the A/C condenser housing to house the oil cooler??? I think there is another hole farther back with a air deflector attached. One thing you can do to help with the looks and add a bit of protection to the coil is to add some metal grating to cover the hole. You can get some Galv grating at Lowes paint it black and attach it to the trunk side of the hole. Add a little plastic door gaurd, from your FLAPS, to the sheetmetal edge of the hole and it will look like it was designed that way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Best of luck Kerry |
Bleyseng |
Jun 18 2003, 01:25 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If I was the DE tech inspector I wouldn't let it on a track with the oil cooler lines on the bottom plus being effin rubber hose. Perfect for blowing oil all over the track! Total joke of a installation.
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J P Stein |
Jun 18 2003, 01:27 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(yarin @ Jun 18 2003, 11:22 AM) Here are the other pics: http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~yarin/Picts/914-bing/ There is a whole thread about this car. I think I manged to capture everything. From what I can tell it is just surface rust. Yeah, I saw em'. I got off the turnip truck, but not the last one.....I'm done. |
Bleyseng |
Jun 18 2003, 01:32 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where JP is talking about..
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yarin |
Jun 18 2003, 01:38 PM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
Tell me more about this "hole" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Kerrys914 |
Jun 18 2003, 01:48 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
Depending on the price and your skill it maybe a goo find. It looks fairly clean.
You may want some heat in the car though during the late fall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You can pick up a pair of exchanges fairly cheap. |
Kerrys914 |
Jun 18 2003, 01:51 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
I think the "Hell hole" is below the battery and near the firewall. It gets all ruste dout from rain washing acid off the battery and down onto the shell/suspension parts... you name it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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seanery |
Jun 18 2003, 01:54 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
the "Hell Hole" is where the watery batery acid ends up. If you are looking in the injun compartment it will be the closest, lowest point behind the passenger seat. Probe at it with a screw driver if you can't get your head down low enough. That is the best reason to get an Optima battery.
They get pretty nasty... there have been some pics posted, but are probably located in several different threads. |
scotty |
Jun 18 2003, 02:30 PM
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The Fun Never Stops Group: Members Posts: 773 Joined: 20-May 03 From: Portland. Oregon (SW) Member No.: 718 Region Association: None |
So... a v8 install with coolant lines in the same place wouldn't pass a DE inspection?
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seanery |
Jun 18 2003, 02:50 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I would doubt it. Look under your car. See all those scratches and dents? The same thing will happen to your lines. Hard lines will be a bit better, but they are still very vunerable.
I've seen oil and/or fuel lines run through the passenger compartment (full race) and oil lines behind the rocker covers on either side. I don't think I'd do coolant through the passenger compartment. |
Mueller |
Jun 18 2003, 02:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I doubt they'd even look under the car unless it was obvious something was leaking or hanging down too far.
The things they look for are loose wheel bearings, a battery not tied down properly, basic saftey items. I don't view the oil lines under the car as a saftey issue. Unless you go off road, they should be fine, the lines are more likely to fail where attached to the motor or cooler. |
Bleyseng |
Jun 18 2003, 02:55 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here is a shot of what happens to the engine shelf and long when the battery acid eats thru. See the ground down below, there is NOTHING there anymore.
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goobu |
Jun 18 2003, 03:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 17-June 03 From: New Jersey Member No.: 836 |
some of us even relocate the battery to the front to avoid this problem completely
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yarin |
Jun 18 2003, 04:43 PM
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'14-X'in FOOL Group: Members Posts: 988 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Guttenberg, NJ Member No.: 693 Region Association: North East States |
At the pre-event tech inspection the team of techs attack the car from all different angles. They put it up on a lift and go through everything. Cheak for leaks, tie rods, tire, clamps, brakes, u name it.. they check it.
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TimT |
Jun 18 2003, 05:24 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
If the tub is solid, the car may be a good purchase. The oil lines can always be relocated. I wonder what service rating that hose is for.
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VegasRacer |
Jun 19 2003, 12:29 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,504 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(yarin @ Jun 18 2003, 10:18 AM) will it pass DE Tech Inspection?? Any thoughts?? Tech Inspection is not something to try and "sneak thru". Those guys are donating their time and knowledge to protect everyone at the event. If you have a question about a safety issue - fix it. I know I would not want to be the first one to drive thru the oil you just put on my apex and end up in the wall, because you 'thought it would be OK' to run with exposed rubber oil lines. High speed driving is dangerous. For your safety (not to mention enjoyment and expenses) and the safety of all the other drivers, workers and spectators - Do everything you can to insure that it is a safe and fun event. [/soapbox] |
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