What kind of Cylinders are these?, I bought a 914 with Nickies, but not sure what I received. |
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What kind of Cylinders are these?, I bought a 914 with Nickies, but not sure what I received. |
r_towle |
May 3 2016, 04:50 PM
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'73-914kid |
May 3 2016, 06:10 PM
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Those aren't nickies in the picture from the craigslist add, that's for damn sure. Typical black paint on the cast iron AA cylinders, and the valve reliefs cut into the piston tops is what AA does on their typical 96mm big bore kit.
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0396 |
May 3 2016, 06:40 PM
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Not to beat this to death. But if that's what the OP bought, I hope he didn't get " nickies" mixed up with Nikasil cylinder.. Nikasil is a coating.
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r_towle |
May 3 2016, 07:04 PM
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Still would be aluminum.
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Mueller |
May 3 2016, 07:04 PM
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Not to beat this to death. But if that's what the OP bought, I hope he didn't get " nickies" mixed up with Nikasil cylinder.. Nikasil is a coating. European Motorworks has NiCaSil coated cylinders, but those in the picture for this thread don't look aluminum. http://www.europeanmotorworks.com/vw/type-...-cylinders.html |
r_towle |
May 3 2016, 07:06 PM
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While they certainly may exist, I have not seen cast iron cylinders with a nickel plating for a type4 motor.
I recall the biral ones for the 356, and other types for the six cylinders... All I know of are these above, and the nickies from LN. |
colingreene |
May 3 2016, 09:22 PM
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was it Lawrences motor? EMW did do that motor.
and they do use orange RTV. 1211 is so much better though. |
Mark Henry |
May 3 2016, 09:47 PM
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was it Lawrences motor? EMW did do that motor. and they do use orange RTV. 1211 is so much better though. I've tried it. BTW it's still a silicone based product.... otherwise known as RTV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) http://www.threebond.com.au/liquid-gaskets.html |
Jake Raby |
May 3 2016, 10:02 PM
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Nickies TM are a trademark of LN Engineering, and have been for over 15 years.
Some cheap Chinese knockoffs (of course) do exist, and the sellers try to use the Nickies term to describe their product. Nikisil is not a coating, its a plating comprised of Nickel, Silicon, and Carbide.. Not sure if the people coming up with NiCaSil product even know what the hell the composition is. Its a sad time in this industry, but people keep getting away with lying, stealing, and selling junk. |
sixnotfour |
May 3 2016, 10:12 PM
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Mark Henry |
May 4 2016, 01:18 PM
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was it Lawrences motor? EMW did do that motor. and they do use orange RTV. 1211 is so much better though. I've tried it. BTW it's still a silicone based product.... otherwise known as RTV (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) http://www.threebond.com.au/liquid-gaskets.html Elring Dirko is also RTV based (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) http://www.amazon.com/Elring-Dirko-Silicon...d/dp/B00W97UPJI |
0396 |
May 4 2016, 01:58 PM
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I use Three Bond between the cam towers...as suggested by Dick Elverude in Portland.
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Mark Henry |
May 4 2016, 02:02 PM
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sixnotfour |
May 4 2016, 03:36 PM
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sixnotfour |
May 4 2016, 03:38 PM
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If you paid nickies coin for that you have been hosed. I'd be just a tad pissy about it. Yes , about a $3000 difference plus machining costs.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Dirko because its German |
HansJan |
May 4 2016, 05:24 PM
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Earlier this week there was some confusion about the size of the AA cylinders on my car. People at AA explained how to measure this from the outside. Conclusion is that they are indeed 103mm cylinders. H
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r_towle |
May 4 2016, 05:53 PM
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Cool for that I guess.
I have used 103 cast cylinders more than a few times....they work. I found that at about 10-15k miles you need to redo the rings. Also, you need to manage heat really well. |
2mAn |
May 4 2016, 05:55 PM
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saw the engine fire picture and have been skeptical when I see his ads on CL.
about the AA stuff. best to just avoid it? Whats a good place to get a nice overbore P&C setup that wont break the bank? I know you get what you pay for, but not everyone can afford/ or wants the best of the best. I also dont want chinese crap. Its all new to me |
RoadGlue |
May 4 2016, 05:56 PM
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saw the engine fire picture and have been skeptical when I see his ads on CL. about the AA stuff. best to just avoid it? Whats a good place to get a nice overbore P&C setup that wont break the bank? I know you get what you pay for, but not everyone can afford/ or wants the best of the best. I also dont want chinese crap. Its all new to me AA P&C's are fine, but the rings suck. |
r_towle |
May 4 2016, 06:01 PM
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saw the engine fire picture and have been skeptical when I see his ads on CL. about the AA stuff. best to just avoid it? Whats a good place to get a nice overbore P&C setup that wont break the bank? I know you get what you pay for, but not everyone can afford/ or wants the best of the best. I also dont want chinese crap. Its all new to me AA P&C's are fine, but the rings suck. Yup |
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