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> just got my bursch, it's got a dent
Schnell944
post Jun 19 2003, 07:22 PM
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there's kind of a dent on the underside of the bursch muffler i got today...should I send it back or jsut not worry about it...it's not HUGE, but it kinda pisses me off. is this just a common thing bc of low-ish quality? and is there normally a little dent there bc of welds and manufacturing stuff>?
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post Jun 19 2003, 07:26 PM
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My Bursch came yesterday. I was out of town so I just opened it and inspected it tonight. Mine looks fine. I've got no dents or blemishes (neither does my exhaust). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 19 2003, 07:27 PM
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Think of it as a tuning feature (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You are changing the volume and shape of the muffler (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

I'd keep it unless the metal is damaged enough so that it might fail, but I doubt it..............
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post Jun 19 2003, 07:44 PM
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Bursch's also seem to rust instantly. I think if I got a new one I'd paint it with that POR-15 exhaust paint or some other appropriate high temp paint.
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post Jun 19 2003, 07:49 PM
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The paint quality on the one I just got actually looks pretty good. However, I'm not taking any chances. I've got a can of "Fast Black" VHT exhaust paint waiting in the garage.

Tomorrow, I paint. Saturday, I install.
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post Jun 19 2003, 09:04 PM
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Regarding exhausts, Im trying to find one that is inbetween the noise level of the factory and monza.
Does the bursh fit the bill?
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post Jun 19 2003, 09:09 PM
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Bursch and Triad are in between. Triad sounds way better, lower.
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post Jun 19 2003, 09:29 PM
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Triad is better?

got a weblink?
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post Jun 19 2003, 11:34 PM
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Is that "BLAAAHHHH" sound common to Bursch exhausts when you get on it a little? Or is that a sign of age. I'm wondering because the one's I heard recently, sounded like it.

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post Jun 19 2003, 11:40 PM
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The Bursch is quiet only the first couple of months then it sounds like shit.

Triadwestperformance.com
I will see Dave Ellison this weekend, everyone except Chris and I run Triad exhausts there. Hey, I guess we are the odd couple or odd men out. (cheap)

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post Jun 20 2003, 01:29 AM
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Why not put a stock muffler on?
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post Jun 20 2003, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Krieger @ Jun 19 2003, 11:29 PM)
Why not put a stock muffler on?

My thoughts exactly.

The 914 engine is noisy enough as it is. Furthermore, the engine predominantly determines the exhaust sound, not the muffler. Besides, a correct backpressure and flow capacity (with stock engines) will be maintained with an original "banana".

My car at first had a Supersprint 914 Sport Exhaust; it produced a constant drone during high way driving; now that is "exhausting"! Performance is now better with a stock muffler and the noise level is down.

Neither your d... will get longer or your car any faster with a so called sport exhaust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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post Jun 20 2003, 02:47 PM
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Well guys, I changed my plans and I'm kinda glad I did.

Originally, I was going to paint my new Bursch with VHT paint, let it dry then install it. Today, I decided that I would install the new exhaust without painting it so I could make sure that it was functioning properly. Then, I would remove it and paint it at a later time.

I got the thing installed pretty easily. I backed the car out of the garage and let it sit running for no longer than 60 seconds while I went inside to grab my wallet. I came out and the rear end of my car was sitting in a cloud of smoke. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

It appears that the paint that the exhaust is coated with needs to burn off to some extent. Hence, the smoke. And the smell is not too great either.

Other than a little smoke and smell, it is working great.
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post Jun 20 2003, 05:28 PM
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Long ago, when I painted a muffler with some (inadequate) high temp paint I bought at the local hardware store, I recall that the instructions were to get the paint up to a high temperature to "cure" it, within 12 hours of application. The guy at the hardware store said to use a propane torch if necessary.
I did both.

Of course, the stuff flaked off within a week of driving. . .
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post Jun 22 2003, 12:03 PM
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I've been very happy with my Burch. Three years and it still looks and sounds like new. And it does have a small dent in the turbo muffler to clearance for one of the pipes. No big deal.
-Ben M.
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post Jun 22 2003, 03:38 PM
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$933 for a stock 2.0 muffler on pelican. i need a couple more jobs.
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post Jun 22 2003, 05:25 PM
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ahh, that's what the smoke and smell was from! lol....I threw a seat in the car quickly and drove it around the block to test the new bursch out and wasnt sure what to make of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)
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post Jun 23 2003, 08:37 AM
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Price differences in Europe:

Typical Mittelmotor Prices

Bursch 2.0 exhaust 256.- euro

Original 2.0 banana 299.- euro
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post Jun 23 2003, 09:22 AM
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Wow, 299 Euros is about $345 USD! Even with shipping that would beat the heck out of Pelican's price.
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post Jun 23 2003, 09:43 AM
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For the dedicated internet shopper: Mittelmotor English Startpage
Go to Products > Parts > Order > Model 914 > 0.1 engine > 0.13 exhaust system and there you can go (exhaust) bananas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
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