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EdwardBlume
post Jun 3 2016, 02:50 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-porsche-seda...-023600696.html
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:35 PM
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Not sure they need another sedan !
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:40 PM
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If it weren't for the 914, I wouldn't give Porsche a rats ass!

You don't see Ferrari making SUVs & Sedans. Porsche lost their way a long time ago!
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post Jun 3 2016, 06:10 PM
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As nice as the modern super cars are, I think something was lost from 98 on...
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:08 PM
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The should make a turbo 4 cylinder Cayman targa
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:08 PM
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I disagree. I would drive a Cayman GT4 if I could justify the expense.
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:11 PM
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I disagree. I would drive a Cayman GT4 if I could justify the expense.

Yeah, throw a CGT, GT3, and 911 Turbo to the list but none of them will be rebuild it yourself enthusiast cars... ever.
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:17 PM
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Check it out, the Ferrari SUV. It's all over!

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If it weren't for the 914, I wouldn't give Porsche a rats ass!

You don't see Ferrari making SUVs & Sedans. Porsche lost their way a long time ago!



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post Jun 3 2016, 07:27 PM
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RobW - kind of ironic that your signature says "I never met a Porsche I didn't like"

maybe time to rethink your sig? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(RobW @ Jun 3 2016, 06:11 PM) *

QUOTE(matthepcat @ Jun 3 2016, 06:08 PM) *

I disagree. I would drive a Cayman GT4 if I could justify the expense.

Yeah, throw a CGT, GT3, and 911 Turbo to the list but none of them will be rebuild it yourself enthusiast cars... ever.


I disagree, simply surf a few of the 911 forums.
There are some that will build their TT engine.
But then, we are discussing a lot lot higher price point for their rides.
Majority of these "modern 911" simply have to funds to outsource for the expertise.
Yes, if I had the disposal income, I would line up for Cayman GT4 too.
Don't know until you've own one and or surf the other Porsche forums. Some members only "know" 914 as its pretty simple vs the new Porsches.
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post Jun 3 2016, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(frankiec@outrageous.net @ Jun 3 2016, 05:17 PM) *

Check it out, the Ferrari SUV. It's all over!

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If it weren't for the 914, I wouldn't give Porsche a rats ass!

You don't see Ferrari making SUVs & Sedans. Porsche lost their way a long time ago!


I'm very happy to be able to drive my Cayenne to buy parts for my teener! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:12 PM
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If it weren't for the 914, I wouldn't give Porsche a rats ass!

You don't see Ferrari making SUVs & Sedans. Porsche lost their way a long time ago!

Ferrari sells nothing under a $200K MSRP. You can't compare the two.
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:22 PM
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That could be a 2 door version of the Panamera. Looks like the rear doors could just be simulated.
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:25 PM
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I'll wait to see what it is, never know with porsche...he'll they tested their TAG F1 engine in a 930 body. For all we know they're just testing parts.

I personally hope it's a new 928 rather than a 'pajun'.

I'm still impressed with all the current models, as I've driven the whole model range at the track (aside from GT3/GT4) and the new turbo base Carerra with PDK was amazing. If a car is good and fun, I don't really care.

BTW I do have a 'real Carreras have 4 cams' t shirt I wear to 356 events...so I like to joke around too.
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(jmitro @ Jun 3 2016, 06:27 PM) *

RobW - kind of ironic that your signature says "I never met a Porsche I didn't like"

maybe time to rethink your sig? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yeah, and look at when I joined....
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:47 PM
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I wasn't a fan of the Panamera concept, wrote a marketing paper on it in grad school, and was dead wrong about its success. I've driven a 4S a few hundred miles and found it to be a lot like a 911 in the "think it and the car shall do it" category, but its a heavy sucker with a ton of hp / torque to combat physics. Plus all that refinement becomes less of an enthusiast trait than an OBD II / dealership trait.

IMHO I love Porsche for the people, the racers, and the tinkerer / dreamer. Even a second hand Porsche makes you feel like you did something right in this world. We'll see if the expanded line up for Porsche becomes collector cars or just a notch on the income statement for VW.
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post Jun 3 2016, 09:29 PM
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Not a fan of them sharing motors now...supposedly the new inline 4 turbo in the
Macan is an Audi motor. Nothing too terribly wrong with it, but it seems to cheapen or take some of the thrill out of it...remember the 924s? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 3 2016, 10:02 PM
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I think they should sell whatever makes money.
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post Jun 3 2016, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 3 2016, 08:29 PM) *

Not a fan of them sharing motors now...supposedly the new inline 4 turbo in the
Macan is an Audi motor.


The V6 Cayenne (early on) was an Audi motor, too. I think it may have been a VR6, in fact.

I remember when they were coming out with the Cayenne. I was absolutely certain they had lost their minds, thinking that they could sell something for 3x the cost of a Boxster or 2x a 911, and thinking they could sell 4-5 times as many of them as either of the others. (No, they sold something like 5-10 times the total of the 911 and Boxster!)

I'm thinking that the professionals that Porsche employs actually do know something about making and selling cars....

...I'd dearly love to see a ~2200 lb Cayman variant, though...

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post Jun 3 2016, 10:45 PM
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The brand suffered little in spreading out to SUVs and 4 door sedans. Most of those who complained aren't buying new Porsches anyway.

If I had the means, I would buy a new Porsche, and yes, even one that isn't a sports car as with Kids, you have different priorities.

Also, I see that Porsche is learning from other brands who sell exclusivity as, perhaps, their #1 trait with some of these low volume models such as the 918 and the 911R.
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