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> petronix or points, what does the brain trust say
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post Jun 18 2016, 07:05 AM
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Points/condenser ignition is so archaic at this point in the development of the automobile. I'm running Pertronix II on my 914. One time install; adjust timing; never worry about it.

Oh yeah, I have a set of points/condenser in the trunk just in case. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jun 18 2016, 11:34 AM
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Just to be a dick... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If you look at unbiased dyno tests there is no HP difference between points, HEI or crankfire systems.
In fact if anything points may have a slight HP gain, but it's too small to be definitive.

Most tests that I've seen on this so far were on mild performance V8s with a 6500-ish redline.
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post Jun 18 2016, 12:16 PM
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Running Pertronix in both 914s, no issues with 5 years and 15k miles on the oldest unit.

I don't miss points...
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post Jun 18 2016, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 18 2016, 10:34 AM) *
If you look at unbiased dyno tests there is no HP difference between points, HEI or crankfire systems.


That's to be expected. The benefits of an electronic ignition aren't any better power, they are less wear and more consistent operation. Especially in the long term. CDI ignition is good to help igniting very rich mixtures, and to help keep the plugs clean when running rich mixtures.

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post Jun 18 2016, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(somd914 @ Jun 18 2016, 10:16 AM) *

Running Pertronix in both 914s, no issues with 5 years and 15k miles on the oldest unit.

I don't miss points...

I have a Crane unit with optical pickup. Didn't like the sheet metal bracket or plastic chopper wheel so machined them. As some folks know I like to carry a spare dizzy with points loaded and gap set.
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post Jun 18 2016, 07:09 PM
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Received my 123 ignition today. I'm heading for lake tahoe Monday morning for a week. Get back on the install when I get back.
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post Jun 27 2016, 12:08 PM
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I brought the 123 down to PMB, since I'm having other work done on the car next week they will do the install of the distributor. PMB will do a write up on the install of the distributor..
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post Jun 30 2016, 11:10 PM
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> I brought the 123 down to PMB, since I'm having other work done on the car next week they will do the install of the distributor. PMB will do a write up on the install of the distributor..


Looking forward to it...

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post Jul 1 2016, 02:17 PM
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It appears that only one responder likes points. Hmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) . Or as Vulgaris points out, maybe he didn't read the instructions! Anyway +1 on Petronics. Ran them in 3 vehicles w/o a hitch. 9 yr's in one car. I would like to ask those that carry a set of points & condenser if they also carry a timing light & dwell meter to set them with. Didn't think so, except maybe Brandt who carries spare engines with him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) . It's easier & smarter to carry an extra Petronics unit with ya.
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:19 PM
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It appears that only one responder likes points. Hmmm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) . Or as Vulgaris points out, maybe he didn't read the instructions! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Anyway +1 on Petronics. Ran them in 3 vehicles w/o a hitch. 9 yr's in one car. I would like to ask those that carry a set of points & condenser if they also carry a timing light & dwell meter on board. Didn't think so, except maybe Brandt who carries everything with him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) . It's easier & smarter to carry an extra Petronics unit.
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:37 PM
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Hi, my name is curt and I'm a pointaholic. I always carry a set along with a condenser. And a dwell meter. I check dwell about once a month. Takes thirty seconds. If it's off, I readjust. Takes about three minutes. As long as dwell is set the same, no need to check timing or carry a light. I'm old, and old school, and damn proud of it. True, points are not as well made as they used to be, but not much is.
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Jun 16 2016, 11:32 AM) *

With the off chance of driving through a nuclear EMP pulse, I say mechanical points is the way to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)



I agree!

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post Jul 1 2016, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jul 1 2016, 09:37 PM) *

Hi, my name is curt and I'm a pointaholic.


Hi, my name is Darren and I'm an Alcoholic. At first I thought I was on the wrong forum, then I remembered it was the right forum as it was here that drove me to drink.
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post Jul 1 2016, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Darren C @ Jul 1 2016, 03:53 PM) *

QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jul 1 2016, 09:37 PM) *

Hi, my name is curt and I'm a pointaholic.


Hi, my name is Darren and I'm an Alcoholic. At first I thought I was on the wrong forum, then I remembered it was the right forum as it was here that drove me to drink.

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post Jul 1 2016, 03:35 PM
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Step 1 to reliable ignition: Loose the distributor.

Solid state is where it's at.

Computers don't screw up advance or wear out.


Spend a grand and leave your problems behind.....

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post Jul 1 2016, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Darren C @ Jul 1 2016, 01:53 PM) *

QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jul 1 2016, 09:37 PM) *

Hi, my name is curt and I'm a pointaholic.


Hi, my name is Darren and I'm an Alcoholic. At first I thought I was on the wrong forum, then I remembered it was the right forum as it was here that drove me to drink.




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So THAT's what happened. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Lesson learned. Don't drink and vote.

I hope you're ok with that Darren...my English speaking cousin from across the Pond.
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post Jul 1 2016, 03:55 PM
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Ich war ein europäisch bis zum vergangenen Freitag!
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post Jul 1 2016, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Darren C @ Jul 1 2016, 05:55 PM) *

Ich war ein europäisch bis zum vergangenen Freitag!




How is your status in the EU relevant?

And why make the statement in German?

Did you vote? How did you vote?
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post Jul 1 2016, 04:11 PM
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I think he said it's Friday, and happy hour...


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post Jul 1 2016, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Series9 @ Jul 1 2016, 11:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Darren C @ Jul 1 2016, 05:55 PM) *

Ich war ein europäisch bis zum vergangenen Freitag!




How is your status in the EU relevant?

And why make the statement in German?


914 teeners talking about our recent EU vote. I don't think any off us know the status right now Joe.
Until Article 50 is exercised the UK break from the EU isn't "formalized" and many negotiations are yet to be made.
The Brexit camp are hailing it a victory and June 24th as our new July 4th. But now they realize what they've got to deal with Boris Johnson (who was a key leader in the campaign to leave and we all thought would take over, has walked away from the mess)
The Remain camp are obviously in turmoil as they make up most of our current Parliament who don't agree with the result of the vote hence our Prime Ministers resignation.
Labour, the opposition are in mutiny and divided. Most want the leader Corbyn out of the leadership, but he won't let go.

It's a right Royal Mess. Those citizens who voted out of the EU that didn't really know what that would mean, now want a re-vote to change their minds.
Scotland wants full independence from UK now so that they can remain in the EU but only just voted to remain in UK before the referendum.

God knows how it'll all sort itself out.

Life goes on day to day and nothing tangible has changed just yet.

My German is just a joke for 914 teener.....me pretending to still be European
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