195/50×R15, Pros & cons |
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195/50×R15, Pros & cons |
BeemerSteve |
Jun 23 2016, 07:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 2-September 15 From: Van Zandt, Wa Member No.: 19,123 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I just got a great deal on Kumho Ecsta AST 195/50×R15 tires that I couldn't pass up. Has anyone else used these on their 914? I know the speedo will be way off and the car now is maybe way too low but will they work okay? Need feedback from anyone else that used or uses the same size.
Thanks!!!! |
Racer |
Jun 23 2016, 08:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Work? yes. Will you like them? maybe. They were fine when I was AX'ing, but the drives to/from were painful. Car was running a couple hundred rpm higher when cruising after swapping from a 195/60.
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Mark Henry |
Jun 23 2016, 08:47 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
To me they just look odd, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I like a tire that fills up the wheelwell.
195/65-15 looks proper, on my car I'm going to run 205/60-15 I'm hoping I don't have to roll the fenders. |
BeemerSteve |
Jun 24 2016, 07:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 2-September 15 From: Van Zandt, Wa Member No.: 19,123 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks for the input! I'll run them for awhile see if I like them....if not I can always go back to my 195/60×15
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pete000 |
Jun 24 2016, 09:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Speedometer will be off.
I like the look it really lowers the car, great for autocross because it lowers your gearing for short courses. I ended up running 60 series to be in the middle. |
Tom_T |
Jun 24 2016, 11:29 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Speedometer will be off. I like the look it really lowers the car, great for autocross because it lowers your gearing for short courses. I ended up running 60 series to be in the middle. Odometer too - so you'll add on significant "ghost mileage" to the car with them. Go to one of the online tire size change calculators to see just how much. IIRC it's around 10-12% more at both speedo & odo. You may also have tire clearance & rubbing issues F & R, & may lose a bit of turning ability lock-to-lock unless you use spacers & pulled/flared/rolled fenders F & R. With stock set-up in front & adding the 50s you'll hit the inner wheel well at full turn locked-up all the way (or before). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
Chris Pincetich |
Jun 24 2016, 12:17 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
I had them for 2 years. Low and sporty! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Now my 914 is less cafe racer and more commuter, so I have 195/65s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
smokey |
Jun 24 2016, 12:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
195/55/15
365.00 mounted balanced Thunder (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Jun 24 2016, 03:29 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Speedometer will be off. I like the look it really lowers the car, great for autocross because it lowers your gearing for short courses. Exactly this! Great gearing for most autoX courses, shorter sidewalls meaning more feedback from the road, more grip probably from the car being closer to the ground. Harsher ride (slightly), more RPMs turned on the freeway to keep up with traffic, slightly worse fuel economy. --DD |
green914 |
Jun 24 2016, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
Speedometer will be off. I like the look it really lowers the car, great for autocross because it lowers your gearing for short courses. Exactly this! Great gearing for most autoX courses, shorter sidewalls meaning more feedback from the road, more grip probably from the car being closer to the ground. Harsher ride (slightly), more RPMs turned on the freeway to keep up with traffic, slightly worse fuel economy. --DD I am running with Toyo Proxes 195X55 - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Dave covered the pros and cons. I'm happy with the how they perform. |
BeemerSteve |
Jun 24 2016, 06:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 2-September 15 From: Van Zandt, Wa Member No.: 19,123 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I kinda figured most all that's been said....I plan to have another set of 60's for traveling. No clearance issues because I have spacers in the front although the transition from driveway to garage pad had a bit of dragging on the left corner underneath. I put a board across that area to help the transition.
It really does feel cafe bike ish. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Mueller |
Jun 24 2016, 06:55 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Curious if any of these tire combos are on rims wider than 5.5 (assuming OP is running 5.5 wide rims)
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steuspeed |
Jun 24 2016, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,005 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have 195-55-15s and I would not want to go any smaller. I like my acceleration, but 5th gear is not tall enough now. I don't drive on the hwy much, so it's livable.
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jcd914 |
Jun 24 2016, 11:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
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Garland |
Jun 25 2016, 07:37 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,327 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
To me they just look odd, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I like a tire that fills up the wheelwell. 195/65-15 looks proper, on my car I'm going to run 205/60-15 I'm hoping I don't have to roll the fenders. I like, 205/65-15 around fills out well. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 25 2016, 10:53 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
205 60 15 here on 4 bolt Fuchs. Speedo reads 3% high.
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Gunn1 |
Jun 25 2016, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,021 Joined: 14-February 16 From: Minnesota Member No.: 19,670 Region Association: None |
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stv951 |
Jun 26 2016, 02:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 13-August 14 From: Athens, Greece Member No.: 17,770 Region Association: None |
I have issues with 7x15 195s on the rear
They dont rub. They touch the fenders permanently and the car is undrivable Wheels are cookie cutters. How did you guys fit these. I cant drive it now |
Mueller |
Jun 26 2016, 11:34 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I have issues with 7x15 195s on the rear They dont rub. They touch the fenders permanently and the car is undrivable Wheels are cookie cutters. How did you guys fit these. I cant drive it now See your other post. Something has to be modified, the wheels changed or the fenders pulled out. I'm running 205s on 7s but have a custom offset which is larger than the 23mm you have. |
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