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What oil do you recommend for a 914 2.0 L |
vnault |
Jul 14 2016, 07:54 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 20-September 15 From: Sherbrooke,qc Member No.: 19,182 Region Association: None |
Do you use synthetic oil ?
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dangrouche |
Jul 14 2016, 08:34 AM
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dangrouche Group: Members Posts: 550 Joined: 1-May 04 From: San Francisco Bay Area Member No.: 2,012 Region Association: None |
I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc.
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Perry Kiehl Clone |
Jul 14 2016, 09:33 AM
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Brad Penn and Jake's Snake Oil have ZDDP, that's been taken out of most oils; which is needed for non roller lifters.
Another option is Shell Rotella for diesel, which is available in different weights. |
stugray |
Jul 14 2016, 09:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc. Sorry but VERY bad advice. you MUST use a high ZDDP oil. The oil will usually specify "for use in flat tappet motors". I have used Brad Penn (the GREEN stuff) and Valvoline VR1 Racing oil (with ZDDP). And you CANNOT trust "well I used Castrol for years and it works just fine". The recipes have changed over the years. What USED to work is NOT guaranteed to STILL work in these engines. |
jor |
Jul 14 2016, 10:02 AM
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Just happy to be here. Group: Members Posts: 183 Joined: 28-July 14 From: LA Member No.: 17,693 Region Association: Southern California |
I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc. Sorry but VERY bad advice. you MUST use a high ZDDP oil. The oil will usually specify "for use in flat tappet motors". I have used Brad Penn (the GREEN stuff) and Valvoline VR1 Racing oil (with ZDDP). And you CANNOT trust "well I used Castrol for years and it works just fine". The recipes have changed over the years. What USED to work is NOT guaranteed to STILL work in these engines. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) These engines need zinc and (green) Brad Penn has been my oil for years (in a 356 too). |
mepstein |
Jul 14 2016, 10:04 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,270 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Brad Penn and Jake's Snake Oil have ZDDP, that's been taken out of most oils; which is needed for non roller lifters. Another option is Shell Rotella for diesel, which is available in different weights. We use the Rotella in all the 911 engines at the shop. |
Mark Henry |
Jul 14 2016, 10:18 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Don't listen to the southern boys with their recommendation to run 20w50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) , you're in a cooler climate so at most I'd run is 15w40.
Shell Rotella T is OK for the interim, but it's not the oil it used to be, the good thing is it's cheap and you can get it at Canadian tire and wallymart. Next time you're in Montreal pick up a 20L pail of Chevron Delo 400, it's cheap at about $80 a pail. It's diesel truck oil (as is Rotella T) so they may question it's use in a car, just because it's not good for catalytic converters. CREVIER LUBRICANTS 2320 de la MetropoleLongueuil, cpelletier@crevier.ca Phone: (450) 679-8866 BTW this is the oil Henry at Supertec recommends in his high dollar /6 engines. I can give you a Canadian supplier of Brad Penn if you like, but it's spendy and you would have to pay for shipping from Ontario. |
0396 |
Jul 14 2016, 10:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Asking which oil to use is like asking what position you like at night.
What was suggested about Delo is good. |
vnault |
Jul 14 2016, 10:38 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 20-September 15 From: Sherbrooke,qc Member No.: 19,182 Region Association: None |
Don't listen to the southern boys with their recommendation to run 20w50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) , you're in a cooler climate so at most I'd run is 15w40. Shell Rotella T is OK for the interim, but it's not the oil it used to be, the good thing is it's cheap and you can get it at Canadian tire and wallymart. Next time you're in Montreal pick up a 20L pail of Chevron Delo 400, it's cheap at about $80 a pail. It's diesel truck oil (as is Rotella T) so they may question it's use in a car, just because it's not good for catalytic converters. CREVIER LUBRICANTS 2320 de la MetropoleLongueuil, cpelletier@crevier.ca Phone: (450) 679-8866 BTW this is the oil Henry at Supertec recommends in his high dollar /6 engines. I can give you a Canadian supplier of Brad Penn if you like, but it's spendy and you would have to pay for shipping from Ontario. Thanks for the address I will look into it |
stugray |
Jul 14 2016, 10:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
And the vr1 was on sale last weekend at O'Reillys for $4.99 a quart.
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Mark Henry |
Jul 14 2016, 11:20 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
And the vr1 was on sale last weekend at O'Reillys for $4.99 a quart. Doesn't help when he's in Canada (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
injunmort |
Jul 14 2016, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
valvoline vr1 20-50, has the mineral package, available at most flaps.
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SLITS |
Jul 14 2016, 02:12 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Kendall GT with Liquid Titanium has the correct amount of Zinc. It's what I run in the /6.
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Rand |
Jul 14 2016, 02:38 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Things change over time. Including oil compositions.
An old blog article, take it for what it's worth, but it was written with an intention to care about the bottom line. http://www.randbaldwin.com/index.php/914-and-oils/ |
struckn |
Jul 14 2016, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 9-November 11 From: South Central York Pennsyvania Member No.: 13,764 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
SWEPCO 360 15w40.
It's what Tony at Translog GT, York Pa., put in after the engine rebuild and the 500 mile break in. He uses Brad Pen Break in oil for the first 500 miles, then goes with SWEPCO 360 for everyday normal use. HEY....JUST NOTICED THIS POST IS MY 914TH MILESTONE! |
Mark Henry |
Jul 14 2016, 05:31 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Here's one thing I will say on cheaper oils vs the more expensive oils, pick the oil that you can afford to keep on the shelf and to change on time, every time.
If you are finding excuses like "well it's a good oil so I can get a extra 500 miles out of it" or "I know my change is overdue, but it's ok till my order gets shipped to me next week" or "it can wait till the end month when I get my paycheck... 10 quarts and filter is expensive on a /6 you know." then it might not be the right oil for you. I never have less than a 20L pail of oil on the shelf. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
914Next |
Jul 14 2016, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 699 Joined: 28-July 14 From: Ephraim Wisconsin Member No.: 17,695 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
What about a good quality oil and ZDDPPlus? My mechanic recommended that I use that with very oil change a few years ago.
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Garland |
Jul 14 2016, 06:41 PM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,329 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Best oil, is new oil. Change your oil! Same engine for 40 years, in 4 differant cars. No internal failures.
Later this year that engine will be in its new home (5th), my 72 restoration build. Coming from my 73" 914 Challange Build, that will receive a 1.7 that I'm buillding up a bit. Every change in season will cause condensation in your engine. I live in Michigan a 4 season state. Engine not run in the winter, so 3 seasons oil change. As a rule I change the oil twice a year, late winter, and early summer. I have only used 20-50, mostly Kendall, generic. Biggest concern has always been heat in the summer for me. It's a 72 1.7 FI engine, that I have run since 78, in 4 differant cars, using the same electrics, and FI. I drive aggressivly through the gears with almost full throttle till at speed. I have slowed that down a bit over the last 40 years. But in the 70's this engine was the strongest of many that I had, that's why I'v used it. And it's still strong. At the Midwest classic 12 years ago driving through Hell Michigan, I was ask twice if I was running a 2.0, they could not believe it was a 1.7 FI. I have never had any internal failure, valve adjustments about every 40 thou. Last month I had to replace the distributor due to a worn shaft. Valve tube seals, and oil cooler seals, I replaced one time. And there still holding oil. Here it is (intakes painted white, and wrong heater hose) the rest stock. Taken in 1999 In the 73. Side note: I had a customer in the 90's that drove a 70 ford. He insisted that I not change the filter, only the oil. He said, " the filter is fine, since I change my oil." He was still running with the factory installed Marked filter. Engine ran great. |
napasteve |
Jul 14 2016, 07:21 PM
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914 driving winemaker Group: Members Posts: 503 Joined: 2-January 13 From: Napa, CA Member No.: 15,327 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm running Mobil One 15W-50 in my '73 2.0 because that is what is in our 993. What do you think?
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Mark Henry |
Jul 14 2016, 07:30 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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