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post Jul 14 2016, 07:54 AM
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Do you use synthetic oil ?
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post Jul 14 2016, 08:34 AM
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I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc.
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post Jul 14 2016, 09:33 AM
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Brad Penn and Jake's Snake Oil have ZDDP, that's been taken out of most oils; which is needed for non roller lifters.

Another option is Shell Rotella for diesel, which is available in different weights.
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post Jul 14 2016, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(dangrouche @ Jul 14 2016, 08:34 AM) *

I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc.


Sorry but VERY bad advice. you MUST use a high ZDDP oil.
The oil will usually specify "for use in flat tappet motors".

I have used Brad Penn (the GREEN stuff) and Valvoline VR1 Racing oil (with ZDDP).

And you CANNOT trust "well I used Castrol for years and it works just fine".
The recipes have changed over the years.
What USED to work is NOT guaranteed to STILL work in these engines.
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post Jul 14 2016, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jul 14 2016, 08:57 AM) *

QUOTE(dangrouche @ Jul 14 2016, 08:34 AM) *

I would not. I use any 20-50weight dino. others insist on Brad Penn because of needed zinc.


Sorry but VERY bad advice. you MUST use a high ZDDP oil.
The oil will usually specify "for use in flat tappet motors".

I have used Brad Penn (the GREEN stuff) and Valvoline VR1 Racing oil (with ZDDP).

And you CANNOT trust "well I used Castrol for years and it works just fine".
The recipes have changed over the years.
What USED to work is NOT guaranteed to STILL work in these engines.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) These engines need zinc and (green) Brad Penn has been my oil for years (in a 356 too).
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post Jul 14 2016, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Perry Kiehl Clone @ Jul 14 2016, 11:33 AM) *

Brad Penn and Jake's Snake Oil have ZDDP, that's been taken out of most oils; which is needed for non roller lifters.

Another option is Shell Rotella for diesel, which is available in different weights.

We use the Rotella in all the 911 engines at the shop.
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post Jul 14 2016, 10:18 AM
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Don't listen to the southern boys with their recommendation to run 20w50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) , you're in a cooler climate so at most I'd run is 15w40.

Shell Rotella T is OK for the interim, but it's not the oil it used to be, the good thing is it's cheap and you can get it at Canadian tire and wallymart.

Next time you're in Montreal pick up a 20L pail of Chevron Delo 400, it's cheap at about $80 a pail. It's diesel truck oil (as is Rotella T) so they may question it's use in a car, just because it's not good for catalytic converters.

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BTW this is the oil Henry at Supertec recommends in his high dollar /6 engines.

I can give you a Canadian supplier of Brad Penn if you like, but it's spendy and you would have to pay for shipping from Ontario.
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Asking which oil to use is like asking what position you like at night.
What was suggested about Delo is good.
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post Jul 14 2016, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jul 14 2016, 08:18 AM) *

Don't listen to the southern boys with their recommendation to run 20w50 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) , you're in a cooler climate so at most I'd run is 15w40.

Shell Rotella T is OK for the interim, but it's not the oil it used to be, the good thing is it's cheap and you can get it at Canadian tire and wallymart.

Next time you're in Montreal pick up a 20L pail of Chevron Delo 400, it's cheap at about $80 a pail. It's diesel truck oil (as is Rotella T) so they may question it's use in a car, just because it's not good for catalytic converters.

CREVIER LUBRICANTS
2320 de la MetropoleLongueuil,
cpelletier@crevier.ca
Phone: (450) 679-8866

BTW this is the oil Henry at Supertec recommends in his high dollar /6 engines.

I can give you a Canadian supplier of Brad Penn if you like, but it's spendy and you would have to pay for shipping from Ontario.


Thanks for the address I will look into it
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And the vr1 was on sale last weekend at O'Reillys for $4.99 a quart.
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post Jul 14 2016, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Jul 14 2016, 12:41 PM) *

And the vr1 was on sale last weekend at O'Reillys for $4.99 a quart.

Doesn't help when he's in Canada (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Jul 14 2016, 01:28 PM
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valvoline vr1 20-50, has the mineral package, available at most flaps.
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post Jul 14 2016, 02:12 PM
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Kendall GT with Liquid Titanium has the correct amount of Zinc. It's what I run in the /6.
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post Jul 14 2016, 02:38 PM
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Things change over time. Including oil compositions.

An old blog article, take it for what it's worth, but it was written with an intention to care about the bottom line.

http://www.randbaldwin.com/index.php/914-and-oils/
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post Jul 14 2016, 05:04 PM
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SWEPCO 360 15w40.
It's what Tony at Translog GT, York Pa., put in after the engine rebuild and the 500 mile break in. He uses Brad Pen Break in oil for the first 500 miles, then goes with SWEPCO 360 for everyday normal use.


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post Jul 14 2016, 05:31 PM
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Here's one thing I will say on cheaper oils vs the more expensive oils, pick the oil that you can afford to keep on the shelf and to change on time, every time.

If you are finding excuses like "well it's a good oil so I can get a extra 500 miles out of it" or "I know my change is overdue, but it's ok till my order gets shipped to me next week" or "it can wait till the end month when I get my paycheck... 10 quarts and filter is expensive on a /6 you know." then it might not be the right oil for you.

I never have less than a 20L pail of oil on the shelf.
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post Jul 14 2016, 05:44 PM
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What about a good quality oil and ZDDPPlus? My mechanic recommended that I use that with very oil change a few years ago.
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Best oil, is new oil. Change your oil! Same engine for 40 years, in 4 differant cars. No internal failures.

Later this year that engine will be in its new home (5th), my 72 restoration build. Coming from my 73" 914 Challange Build, that will receive a 1.7 that I'm buillding up a bit.

Every change in season will cause condensation in your engine. I live in Michigan a 4 season state. Engine not run in the winter, so 3 seasons oil change. As a rule I change the oil twice a year, late winter, and early summer. I have only used 20-50, mostly Kendall, generic. Biggest concern has always been heat in the summer for me.

It's a 72 1.7 FI engine, that I have run since 78, in 4 differant cars, using the same electrics, and FI. I drive aggressivly through the gears with almost full throttle till at speed. I have slowed that down a bit over the last 40 years. But in the 70's this engine was the strongest of many that I had, that's why I'v used it. And it's still strong. At the Midwest classic 12 years ago driving through Hell Michigan, I was ask twice if I was running a 2.0, they could not believe it was a 1.7 FI.

I have never had any internal failure, valve adjustments about every 40 thou. Last month I had to replace the distributor due to a worn shaft. Valve tube seals, and oil cooler seals, I replaced one time. And there still holding oil.

Here it is (intakes painted white, and wrong heater hose) the rest stock.

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I had a customer in the 90's that drove a 70 ford. He insisted that I not change the filter, only the oil. He said, " the filter is fine, since I change my oil." He was still running with the factory installed Marked filter. Engine ran great.
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post Jul 14 2016, 07:21 PM
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I'm running Mobil One 15W-50 in my '73 2.0 because that is what is in our 993. What do you think?
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QUOTE(napasteve @ Jul 14 2016, 09:21 PM) *

I'm running Mobil One 15W-50 in my '73 2.0 because that is what is in our 993. What do you think?

I think Mobil One is a bit light in the zinc for the cams in our cars.
OK for the 993, it's made for modern auto oils.
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