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michaelmoo
post Apr 11 2005, 04:52 AM
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What is the best way to compress the springs (reverse lockout springs) to install them in the shift lever housing?
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JWest
post Apr 11 2005, 06:16 AM
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No tools required:

1. Insert a pin part way (like 1/2" or so).
2. Put a spring over the pin where it is entering the housing.
3. Bend the spring so you can insert the other end into the housing (you now have a "U" of spring sticking out.
4. Compress the spring into the housing while sliding the pin the rest of the way through.



5. Throw out the original shifter and get a RennShift. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 11 2005, 07:04 AM
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compressing the springs can be tough. as james said start one side with the pin partially in. i use 2 small putty knives in the spring windings to work them in and move the pin as i go. do this in an uncluttered area. when a spring flys out they can travel quite a distance.

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post Apr 11 2005, 09:54 AM
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yep & yep (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif)

This is a tricky, fiddly job, but well worth doing.

While your in there, famous last words, disassemble the whole thing & re-lube with a nice stiction free grease. I was super pleased with the results. nice smooth shift feel. you can really slam home 4th to 3rd with little fear of catching 1st.

I think the only downside was losing the self centering action. Well & the 3 tries it took to get it all back together correctly. Take pics / notes as you dis-assemble.
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:00 AM
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i want to order the weltmeister lockout kit but will it work in conjuction with the the weltmeister short shifter?!?
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michaelmoo
post Apr 11 2005, 10:09 AM
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That’s why I’m in there. To regrease everything and replace the springs. That and to remove the Weltmiester short shift and replace with the factory lever. Any one want a short shift??
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:10 AM
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my experience with the extra springs. they add an incredible ammount of tension laterally. the action wore/cut into the short shift lever i was using (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) . money would be better spent replacing the 2 bushings that cradle the ball on the shift lever. yes, there should be 2 down there. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) just doing those tightens the lever action up. my wife told me what the. [B], [I], and[U] were for!!

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post Apr 11 2005, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (James Adams @ Apr 11 2005, 04:16 AM)
No tools required:

1. Insert a pin part way (like 1/2" or so).
2. Put a spring over the pin where it is entering the housing.
3. Bend the spring so you can insert the other end into the housing (you now have a "U" of spring sticking out.
4. Compress the spring into the housing while sliding the pin the rest of the way through.



5. Throw out the original shifter and get a RennShift. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

I agree with James, but would add that if you use a small phillips head screw driver and insert it through the housing from the opposite side (from where you have the pin inserted halfway in) you can make the screw driver act as a guide for the spring.

So after his step 3 of bending the spring into a U, push the screw driver through the opposite housing hole and into the spring to hold it in place.

Then instead of "compressing" the spring in his step 4, simple push the screw driver further in until it meets the pin. This automatically straights and compresses the spring. Then slow push the pin farther in while pulling the screw driver slowly out.

piece of cake (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:44 AM
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michael,

i may be interested in your short shift.....
BTW - where did you guys obtain these springs?
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:54 AM
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i plan on winning a jwest shifter at the raffle this year. got the fuse block last year. even if i don't win a jwest shifter, my weit short sideshifter model will be for sale while i'm in camarillo. free shipping (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) !!

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post Apr 11 2005, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 11 2005, 08:44 AM)
michael,

i may be interested in your short shift.....
BTW - where did you guys obtain these springs?

There's a pair of those springs in every shifter assembly. Unless you lose one, they should never need replacement. The detent plate, on the other hand, IS a wear item, and should be inspected and repaired/replaced when worn. The Cap'n
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post Apr 11 2005, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Apr 11 2005, 11:54 AM)
i plan on winning a jwest shifter at the raffle this year. got the fuse block last year.

k

Good luck Kevin. I'm finishing it right now to get it sent out to Howard - it will be plenty fresh!
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post Apr 11 2005, 01:33 PM
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the bonus is you will be there to adjust it for me. after you show me the tricks for the install?

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post Apr 11 2005, 03:44 PM
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what crazy is i here everybody wanting more spring pressure, i removed one of the springs. i dont like to have to force it over, and i have never hit reverse with the one spring.
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post Apr 11 2005, 04:01 PM
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I have been a springmaker for 30 years.I would add to the advice listed above the obvious: wear your safety glasses!
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