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race seats, what fits? |
ljdemartini |
Aug 9 2016, 02:25 PM
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LLOYD Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 30-January 16 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 19,617 Region Association: Central California |
Looking for a race seat that bolts directly to the 914 rails and will accommodate a 5 point harness. Any suggestions?
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 9 2016, 02:34 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
How tall are you? If you're short enough, you have a ton of options that take up more room than the stock seats. Most of them don't fit into the recess in the back pad, though.
If you're taller, you'll have to remove the back pad so you can move the seat back farther. Probably still not as far back as the stock seat goes, and most of them will put you higher up in the car as they are thicker all in all. Very few if any will fit on the 914 seat rails as-is. Many can be made to work if you are willing to drill some holes and do some reinforcements, or if you are willing to make adapters (that again, take more space under the seat). GTS Classics makes several seats that seem to be about the same width and height as 914 seats. There's a good chance of them fitting, even if you're taller. Renegade Hybrids used to (not sure if they still do!) make higher-bolstered seats out of 914 seats. That is possible for the DIY'er as well. Note that a lot of these solutions are not strictly speaking legal in a lot of track organizations. Check the rule sets of whatever organizations you think you may want to run with and see what they require. I doubt most of the above are FIA-certified, for instance, so if that is a requirement you are SOL. If you're willing to make more mods to the car, you have more options. I know people who have lowered the floor pan under the seat by several inches to get more head-room, which was taken up by their racing seat. If you don't absolutely need the sliders, you can get the seat lower down in the chassis by doing a direct mount to the floor pan. Or to bracketry that is thinner than the stock sliding mechanism. If you have two drivers, you may be able to do a setup that allows you to quickly bolt and unbolt the seat... ... Is this Lloyd? --DD |
Cracker |
Aug 9 2016, 05:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Unless you are of moderate *as in short* height - it is near impossible to do. This is especially so with a certified seat. I wouldn't feel comfortable going onto a track in anything but - if not for the other cars (likely faster too) around you. I have notched (had) the floor pan in two of my teeners - I use Kirkey road race seats. I am 6'5" so my life is hell in a teener. Best of luck.
PS: I notched my floor 1.5"...due to ground clearance concerns you can't go much more, if any really. A belated welcome to the World too! Rev Kirkey on Stock Rails Patrick Motorsports w/ Kirkey Intermediate RR on notched floor |
Cal |
Aug 9 2016, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
GTS makes the correct racing seats for the 914 that accommodate the 5 point harness.
http://www.classiccarseats.com/lemans5202.php George at Auto Atlanta also makes a nice reproduction of the recaro racing seat that were original to the 914.....I'm not sure if they can work with a 5 point harness though. http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-Gt-Spor...AA52138300.html Attached thumbnail(s) |
Cracker |
Aug 9 2016, 07:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Those are not race seats...they are hot rod seats. Just sayin'
T |
Cal |
Aug 9 2016, 07:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 615 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
Those are not race seats...they are hot rod seats. Just sayin' T You are correct....they are decorative and not meant for racing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
ljdemartini |
Aug 10 2016, 04:28 PM
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LLOYD Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 30-January 16 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 19,617 Region Association: Central California |
GTS makes the correct racing seats for the 914 that accommodate the 5 point harness. http://www.classiccarseats.com/lemans5202.php George at Auto Atlanta also makes a nice reproduction of the recaro racing seat that were original to the 914.....I'm not sure if they can work with a 5 point harness though. http://www.autoatlanta.com/Porsche-Gt-Spor...AA52138300.html There are no pass through for the belts. |
brant |
Aug 10 2016, 04:31 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,622 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm using an Ultra shield
I'm sorry I don't remember the model number like Kirkey, they make them in different style/rake I know the one I went with has the perfect rake to fit the floorpan of a race car but realize that is with no interior, and no seat rails. if your building a race car, I'd recommend not using the stock rails anyways for additional safety but it sounds like you know what you need... so not trying to butt in. |
patssle |
Aug 10 2016, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 10,741 Region Association: None |
Be careful about racing seats blocking the emergency brake. Mine did - I eventually trimmed the seat down with a hacksaw (they are shitty seats anyways). I want to replace the seat but not really sure what is a good fit.
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0396 |
Aug 10 2016, 06:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Subi Sports in Huntington Beach Ca... look at the Cobra seat... It answers all your questions. It's not a direct bolt on with the seat rails you will need to fab one.
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 10 2016, 07:20 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I saw the photo in the other thread; it is Lloyd. Hi, there! What seats did you use in Moneypit?
--DD |
whitetwinturbo |
Aug 10 2016, 11:34 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
Unless you are of moderate *as in short* height - it is near impossible to do. This is especially so with a certified seat. I wouldn't feel comfortable going onto a track in anything but - if not for the other cars (likely faster too) around you. I have notched (had) the floor pan in two of my teeners - I use Kirkey road race seats. I am 6'5" so my life is hell in a teener. Best of luck. PS: I notched my floor 1.5"...due to ground clearance concerns you can't go much more, if any really. A belated welcome to the World too! Rev Kirkey on Stock Rails Patrick Motorsports w/ Kirkey Intermediate RR on notched floor How did you "notch" the floor? |
Cracker |
Aug 11 2016, 05:04 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
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ljdemartini |
Aug 16 2016, 07:02 PM
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LLOYD Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 30-January 16 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 19,617 Region Association: Central California |
I saw the photo in the other thread; it is Lloyd. Hi, there! What seats did you use in Moneypit? --DD Munypit was the 911. Traitor was the 914-6. I used a Corbeau clubman, but I'm looking for something a little nicer for this car. I think I will lower the floors and move the parking brake cables to mount the GT2 seats I bought. I'll let you know how goes. |
ljdemartini |
Aug 16 2016, 07:09 PM
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LLOYD Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 30-January 16 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 19,617 Region Association: Central California |
Unless you are of moderate *as in short* height - it is near impossible to do. This is especially so with a certified seat. I wouldn't feel comfortable going onto a track in anything but - if not for the other cars (likely faster too) around you. I have notched (had) the floor pan in two of my teeners - I use Kirkey road race seats. I am 6'5" so my life is hell in a teener. Best of luck. PS: I notched my floor 1.5"...due to ground clearance concerns you can't go much more, if any really. A belated welcome to the World too! Rev Kirkey on Stock Rails Patrick Motorsports w/ Kirkey Intermediate RR on notched floor Did you cut the cross brace when you lowered the floor? I think I will lower my floor a couple of inches to accommodate the rails on the GT2 seats I bought. |
Cracker |
Aug 16 2016, 07:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Yes I did. They are out on both sides.
Tony |
Larmo63 |
Aug 16 2016, 07:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Of the "hot rod" seats, I MUCH prefer Stefan's wonderful GTS seats. We looked these over at the last Phoenix Club event.
He couldn't have been nicer, and he is accommodating to whatever you need for your car. They are really nice, not an afterthought seat. One vote for GTS seats! |
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