Has anyone installed a universal chassis harness? Options

[ejharris]

I don't see any problem with using a universal harness kit. Most people seem to be against them because of the hack installs; there are tons of excellent installs as you noted. :)

The biggest thing is getting a timer relay to move the headlight motors which shouldn't be too hard (caveat: I've never looked for an automotive one but industrial ones are pretty easy to find).

I'm planning on rewiring my car using an InfinityWire kit because I got a great deal on a used one. It'll be a little easier since the headlight motor timing can just be added to the control logic.

http://infinitybox.com/

Guys, send us the specifics of what you'd need in a configuration for a 914. You can email that to sales@infinitybox.com. We have a standard configuration that is designed for rear/mid-engine cars. You can see that here. We can easily create a 914 configuration.

Jay Harris
Infinitybox

[zach914v8]

I will try to address everyone here...

Chris914n6- So why the all or nothing approach? I don't want to do anymore patch work.

SixerJ- kroon wire is too much$$$ And as Jeff said the stock wiring has 170 circuits, way way way too much junk wiring. I just want basic functions and the peace of mind that my car wont turn into a fireball.

Mike Bellis- I see what you mean. I would probably get rid of all the junk on the column and use a toggle switch for signals like renegade did with the 914 v8 6 speed car they built. I think renegade used an aftermarket harness in that car as well, hence the pop up headlight were deleted. I would like to keep the pop up lights, maybe rig up a GT manual set up.

matthepcat- Thank you for posting this honda car. I am curious why the car is stated to not have working headlights. I would like to find out why this owner decided no to try to make them function.

Cory M-I saw on samba various cars and buses that were wired just like you said. I would like to get rid of all the porsche switches in the electrical system.

Downunderman- That blue wire kit looks really nice to me. Looks like the most complete kit I have seen for sale as far as universal parts go.

[Cracker]

Not exactly answering directly what you're asking but...

I ditched me harness last year during my build; there is not a single redeemable quality any 45+ year-old electrical harness can offer. I chose to have mine built from scratch as opposed to using an off-the-shelf universal kit.

The upside is I have near flawless system that is personalized to my need. I also have not had a single issue with any electrical component. I designed the circuitry/schematic and layout around my car (mostly a race car) and wouldn't have done it any other way if I were ever crazy enough to do this (once) again!

You can do it...

Tony

[zach914v8]

I don't see any problem with using a universal harness kit. Most people seem to be against them because of the hack installs; there are tons of excellent installs as you noted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The biggest thing is getting a timer relay to move the headlight motors which shouldn't be too hard (caveat: I've never looked for an automotive one but industrial ones are pretty easy to find).

I'm planning on rewiring my car using an InfinityWire kit because I got a great deal on a used one. It'll be a little easier since the headlight motor timing can just be added to the control logic.

http://infinitybox.com/

Guys, send us the specifics of what you'd need in a configuration for a 914. You can email that to sales@infinitybox.com. We have a standard configuration that is designed for rear/mid-engine cars. You can see that here. We can easily create a 914 configuration.

Jay Harris
Infinitybox

OK infinitybox just got a big +++ from me. Now I'm even more tempted to go that direction. I always think it is really cool when a large company joins a forum to try to help guys like us out. That is really cool Jay, thanks.

Tony, got any build pics of your wiring? Really interested in seeing that.

[jd74914]

I don't see any problem with using a universal harness kit. Most people seem to be against them because of the hack installs; there are tons of excellent installs as you noted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The biggest thing is getting a timer relay to move the headlight motors which shouldn't be too hard (caveat: I've never looked for an automotive one but industrial ones are pretty easy to find).

I'm planning on rewiring my car using an InfinityWire kit because I got a great deal on a used one. It'll be a little easier since the headlight motor timing can just be added to the control logic.

http://infinitybox.com/

Guys, send us the specifics of what you'd need in a configuration for a 914. You can email that to sales@infinitybox.com. We have a standard configuration that is designed for rear/mid-engine cars. You can see that here. We can easily create a 914 configuration.

Jay Harris
Infinitybox

OK infinitybox just got a big +++ from me. Now I'm even more tempted to go that direction. I always think it is really cool when a large company joins a forum to try to help guys like us out. That is really cool Jay, thanks.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) While I work really slowly and haven't gotten to the install point, I have asked Jay a ton of questions through their website and he's always answered very promptly and been very helpful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The components look well built and feel very high quality as well.

[zach914v8]

Reading up on the infinity box. Very cool stuff but the $$$ may be a bit big for my purposes. If I had a fuel injected ls1 v8 and a pile of cash I would be all in.

A fellow 914 owner PM'd me about his set up and he did use a universal style harness and got the head lights to pop up correctly too. I am gathering info and will post what I find.

[Cracker]

Tony, got any build pics of your wiring? Really interested in seeing that.

Not your solution...just another approach. Here you go Zach.

Tony

[zach914v8]

Tony, got any build pics of your wiring? Really interested in seeing that.

Not your solution...just another approach. Here you go Zach.

Wow Tony, that is seriously spectacular work. Truly stunning craftsmanship. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) That's what I want!!!! Did you by chance build 2 of everything? lol

[matthepcat]

I suggest reaching out to fasthonda to get more details on his 8 circuit harness:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1544

He is still active here and I suspect he did not integrate the headlights because it was built to be a track car.


Good luck,

Matt

I will try to address everyone here...

Chris914n6- So why the all or nothing approach? I don't want to do anymore patch work.

SixerJ- kroon wire is too much$$$ And as Jeff said the stock wiring has 170 circuits, way way way too much junk wiring. I just want basic functions and the peace of mind that my car wont turn into a fireball.

Mike Bellis- I see what you mean. I would probably get rid of all the junk on the column and use a toggle switch for signals like renegade did with the 914 v8 6 speed car they built. I think renegade used an aftermarket harness in that car as well, hence the pop up headlight were deleted. I would like to keep the pop up lights, maybe rig up a GT manual set up.

matthepcat- Thank you for posting this honda car. I am curious why the car is stated to not have working headlights. I would like to find out why this owner decided no to try to make them function.

Cory M-I saw on samba various cars and buses that were wired just like you said. I would like to get rid of all the porsche switches in the electrical system.

Downunderman- That blue wire kit looks really nice to me. Looks like the most complete kit I have seen for sale as far as universal parts go.

[Cracker]

Thank you Zach...only made one set and hopefully never again! Matt has a good idea - reach out to FH and pick hi brain. All the best!

Tony

[BIGKAT_83]

I've helped with one and will do another pretty soon the headlights are really no trouble, but did add a relay with a set of form C contacts.

Bob

[Cracker]

...should've known Bob had this down pat! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

T

[zach914v8]

This from c contact? So is this like a monetary relay that switches polarity? Something like this maybe? 12 v dpdt switch rado shack # 2750043

[zach914v8]

or is it something like this?

[Mike Bellis]

A simple DPDT relay can operate the pop up lights. They need a ht signal to go up and another to go down. Very simple to do if you have the skills.

[zach914v8]

A simple DPDT relay can operate the pop up lights. They need a ht signal to go up and another to go down. Very simple to do if you have the skills.

A momentary on off on toggle switch can do it. Piece of cake.

[Mike Bellis]

A simple DPDT relay can operate the pop up lights. They need a ht signal to go up and another to go down. Very simple to do if you have the skills.

A momentary on off on toggle switch can do it. Piece of cake.

momentary might not work. The factory wires are constant. You would need to try it.

[zach914v8]

A simple DPDT relay can operate the pop up lights. They need a ht signal to go up and another to go down. Very simple to do if you have the skills.

A momentary on off on toggle switch can do it. Piece of cake.

momentary might not work. The factory wires are constant. You would need to try it.

I think im going to have to bring my power probe home from work and test the stock functions of the headlights out and go from there.

[arkitect]

Zach,
please keep me in the loop on your solution to this...very interested in doing a simpler wiring harness.

Mike B. does make some good points about the stock turn signal adaption that would be needed. I understand that you would rather replace the turn signal stock. Me, I would like to mend the two together to keep the stock look. Would be very helpful if Mike B. would put his electrical experience to the task.

Dave

[tygaboy]

I need a harness for my Build-Off Challenge project and had stumbled onto InfinityBox a while back. Based on Jay's post above, I gave him a call and he spent a ton of time educating me on what they do, how they do it and how their product might work for my build.
I'm duly impressed. Great first impression.
So, I think I'll be pulling the trigger on their 20 circuit system.
I'll update my build with the details as I get to it.
Chris