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[porsche-tom]

Here is my new clock/track timer. It's out of a Soviet mig fully mechanical no wiring needed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

[oakdalecurtis]

A little off the path, but Stoli Russian Vodka used to campaign a pair of MIG jets painted in Stoli Red for advertising. When we saw the two Stoli MIGS at the Reno Air Races years ago, the two jets looked sharp from a distance. But if you got up close and looked down along the fuselage, their metal body panels looked like they were hammered out individually on an anvil with a sledge hammer. (Maybe they were). The MIG body panels were so bumpy from one to the next that it made our USA jets look like they were machined out of a single billet of steel. I think Ivan's strategy has always been quantity over quality. But I guess the bumps helped the airflow over the MIGS, as they flew beautifully!

[Tom_T]

A little off the path, but Stoli Russian Vodka used to campaign a pair of MIG jets painted in Stoli Red for advertising. When we saw the two Stoli MIGS at the Reno Air Races years ago, the two jets looked sharp from a distance. But if you got up close and looked down along the fuselage, their metal body panels looked like they were hammered out individually on an anvil with a sledge hammer. (Maybe they were). The MIG body panels were so bumpy from one to the next that it made our USA jets look like they were machined out of a single billet of steel. I think Ivan's strategy has always been quantity over quality. But I guess the bumps helped the airflow over the MIGS, as they flew beautifully!

Actually Curtis, from what an old Korean War F-86 pilot I knew had said (now deceased), it was that lesser build quality wrinkled skin that gave our slicker aerodynamically F-86 Sabre Jets an edge over those MIG-15s - as well as the use of the full unit stabilators (replaced the earlier fixed horizontal stabilizers with elevators) on the later F-86s resolving the dive & high speed maneuverability problem.

Yes, they were more crudely semi-hand made aircraft, at lower cost than any of ours of that era.

I think that the actor Michael Dorn who played Worf on Startrek TNG has/had a later MIG (17 or a trainer IIRC) which he flew, & was at some of the Miramar NAS/MCAS air shows with it back in the 90's.

Cool Pic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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[oakdalecurtis]

A little off the path, but Stoli Russian Vodka used to campaign a pair of MIG jets painted in Stoli Red for advertising. When we saw the two Stoli MIGS at the Reno Air Races years ago, the two jets looked sharp from a distance. But if you got up close and looked down along the fuselage, their metal body panels looked like they were hammered out individually on an anvil with a sledge hammer. (Maybe they were). The MIG body panels were so bumpy from one to the next that it made our USA jets look like they were machined out of a single billet of steel. I think Ivan's strategy has always been quantity over quality. But I guess the bumps helped the airflow over the MIGS, as they flew beautifully!

Actually Curtis, from what an old Korean War F-86 pilot I knew had said (now deceased), it was that lesser build quality wrinkled skin that gave our slicker aerodynamically F-86 Sabre Jets an edge over those MIG-15s - as well as the use of the full unit stabilators (replaced the earlier fixed horizontal stabilizers with elevators) on the later F-86s resolving the dive & high speed maneuverability problem.

Yes, they were more crudely semi-hand made aircraft, at lower cost than any of ours of that era.

I think that the actor Michael Dorn who played Worf on Startrek TNG has/had a later MIG (17 or a trainer IIRC) which he flew, & was at some of the Miramar NAS/MCAS air shows with it back in the 90's.

Cool Pic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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Hi Tom, I agree, but the wrinkled skin might act like dimples on a golf ball, but not compared to our slick hardware. I think you could buy used Russian MIGs for very cheap, the cost was to maintain and fly them.

[Tom_T]

I think you could buy used Russian MIGs for very cheap, the cost was to maintain and fly them.

Well not for the Russians, Chinese & other "Red" countries - they probably still have warehouses full of parts over there, & they were made "rough & ready" to be maintained & repaired on dirt strips with minimal facilities.

Kinda like the AK47 of the air - not so pretty but works most of the time & cheap/easy to repair - compared to our higher tech & tighter tolerances stuff.

Geez, their "lesser allies" were still flying them at the time of the break-up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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Tom
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[oakdalecurtis]

I think you could buy used Russian MIGs for very cheap, the cost was to maintain and fly them.

Well not for the Russians, Chinese & other "Red" countries - they probably still have warehouses full of parts over there, & they were made "rough & ready" to be maintained & repaired on dirt strips with minimal facilities.

Kinda like the AK47 of the air - not so pretty but works most of the time & cheap/easy to repair - compared to our higher tech & tighter tolerances stuff.

Geez, their "lesser allies" were still flying them at the time of the break-up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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Hey Tom, isn't part of Ivan's strategy always been quantity over quality, whether it's men or machines?

[Tom_T]

Hey Tom, isn't part of Ivan's strategy always been quantity over quality, whether it's men or machines?

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Masses of T34s stopped Hitler's Blitzkrieg on the Steppes - & before that, they just threw millions of people at them!

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Tom
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