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working on my first 914 ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe ![]() |
Hi all. I started working on my 914 and first thing was an oilchange and a new filter. Got all the parts new, and started working. How hard is an oilchange right?
All went fine untill I removed the old oilfilter...i thought a wrong one was there since it was another type then should be there, it was smaller in diameter. However... The new filter does not fit. It is too wide since it hits another part, a supportthing that hold a wheel that presses on the belt. See pics. ![]() The new bosch filter is hitting this supportbracket. This is the new filter i think is ok ![]() This filter came off. It is smaller in diameter and clears the supportbracket ![]() ![]() Can you please advice? Can i get that smaller diameter oilfilter to continue ? |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Is that little wheel a belt tensioner for an AC system? Never seen before.
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working on my first 914 ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe ![]() |
Sorry...it is a 1973 1.7 (forgot to mention that)
Yes...it is a tensioner for the ac belt, so it seems. And that bosch filter is too wide. The filter that was on it does fit, but I checked the crossreference site for that filter and the needed filters do not seem to be the same. http://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/co...PROMOTIVE/PH195 The filter that rax914 is mentioning is compatible with what came off....is that Ok for a 914 ? |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 20-August 14 From: California Member No.: 17,801 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I have a '72 1.7 and the Bosch 3402 fits well, but I don't have air conditioning. Here are the product specs for the 3402:
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Just buy another smaller diameter filter, it obviously worked since the motor has not blown up.
There are at least 5 cross ref numbers on the old filter. |
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I have a '72 1.7 and the Bosch 3402 fits well, but I don't have air conditioning. Here are the product specs for the 3402: ![]() Those dimensions would be for a square filter! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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working on my first 914 ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe ![]() |
Mueller, "it obviously worked since the motor has not blown up. "
That is true, but I also do not re-use the flat copper washer that was present under the drainbolt instead of the crushable ring that should be there although it did not blow up the motor too :-) I thought all filters have their own specs and flow etc , so since it is other then the book states I just wanted to check with the 914 community what to use now. Maybe the previous oilchnage just got a fitting filter, but maybe not a correct one... |
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RN ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,838 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Audubon,PA Member No.: 2,766 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I use MAHLE OC-28.
I usually had probs with the length of canister with my aftermarket BAT external oil cooler adaptor. The Mahle works best in that regard. Not sure though of clearance with the a/c pulley and diameter of canister. Maybe give it a go . Good luck. |
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One Lap of America in a 914! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,266 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 9,101 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Baldwin B228 is my favorite. Same length as the stock filter but smaller in diameter. Great when using a sandwich adapter for an external cooler or when you're sick of busting your knuckles dealing with the stock size filter.
http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/PartSpeci...partnumber=B228 |
TheCabinetmaker |
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I drive my car everyday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,335 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 ![]() |
Baldwin B228 is my favorite. Same length as the stock filter but smaller in diameter. Great when using a sandwich adapter for an external cooler or when you're sick of busting your knuckles dealing with the stock size filter. http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/PartSpeci...partnumber=B228 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) A 944 filter fits too. |
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One Lap of America in a 914! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,266 Joined: 25-May 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 9,101 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Yes, that's a Baldwin B178 which hangs a bit too low on the 914 in my opinion. Same as Rabbit, Jetta, Golf, etc.
http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/PartSpeci...partnumber=B178 |
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914 Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,146 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
I would be tempted to get rid of the tensioner. Then again, I don't really like the AC setups on most of our cars.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
I have used the K & N and Mobil 1 filters in addition to the Mahle.
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,196 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I would just get another ph195 and call it a day.
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working on my first 914 ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe ![]() |
Ok...since a PH195 was not available in NL, I bought a MANN filter, which is compatible. It has a 'better' diameter for me, but is about an inch longer than teh PH195 that came off the engine.
I fits nice and does not stick out, is nicely tucked away even though it is a bit longer ![]() as you can see the one recommended is shorter and has a bigger diameter, the other MANN filter is longer and has a smaller diameter. A small job, but one down from the list ! Thanks for the tips and advice ! |
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