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gaocs |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-April 16 From: London Member No.: 19,924 Region Association: None ![]() |
Hi
How do I tell if the Riviera's that are on my car are original period dealer fit ones or reproductions from a later stage? Are there any markings or any other way to tell? Thanks |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22,238 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() |
The ones without the raised paddles, form Vees, tend to be closer to the Fuch backspacing. You may find markings for a co in Portland OR on the backside. The other ones are sort of a generic 914, 4 lug bug, t-3, ghia, etc wheels that can tend to have less generous backspacing.
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Hi How do I tell if the Riviera's that are on my car are original period dealer fit ones or reproductions from a later stage? Are there any markings or any other way to tell? Thanks First, a correction - even back in the day, Rivieras were aftermarket wheels, & some Porsche+Audi dealers would install them for customers. Only a dealer sales invoice or parts/service invoice will tell you if they were put on the car by the dealer, or an indie tire/wheel shop. My Rivieras were put on my 73 914-2.0 by the dealer for the OO at the time of sale on 11/6/72, & I only know this cuz & asked the OO when I bought it from him about 3 years old in Dec. 1975, but have no documentation for such. I don't care about the dealer sale/install documentation. BTW - these were the correct ET40 offset used on 914s - not a generic one. While I preferred then & still like now the 5-spoke look on a 4-lug OE hub of these Rivs, to be more correct to originality, I'll be putting on 5 restored OE factory fitment Fuchs 2L forged aluminum alloy wheels in my resto, & these Rivs may become the "extra street tire/wheel" set. Note that those are the original reversed lower case "r" logo center caps on them - another indication of the "real" early Rivs. ![]() Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Sorry for that last blurry pic, this one is clearer, & shows the raised polished/brushed pads on the spokes. Note that these are the far less common "Brushed Aluminum" finish - & not the most common polished type, so it has tinl lines on the finished surface.
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22,238 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() |
There are quite a few differences between yours and the ones ferg posted.
To the OP, post some pictures of your wheels. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I'm by no means an expert on them. I've always understood that the early ones were without the raised petal.
Since they were mainly a VW application they could easily predate the 914 completely, I dunno |
gaocs |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-April 16 From: London Member No.: 19,924 Region Association: None ![]() |
There are quite a few differences between yours and the ones ferg posted. To the OP, post some pictures of your wheels. Yes, good point! I will be back at home at the weekend and so will get some pictures posted. I think that they are the brushed aluminium ones which Tom_T refers to, but they are in a bit of a mess. |
gaocs |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-April 16 From: London Member No.: 19,924 Region Association: None ![]() |
Thanks for all the info guys.
I just got my car and it has the Rivieras on, but they are kind of tatty and so don't look great. I'd like to get some Fuchs or Pedrini's, but of course they cost $$$$ here in the Uk (if you can get them at all), but may look at restoring these if I could find a way to do it so they look good. Also I've lots of other things to do on the car where that money for Fuchs/Pedrini's could go! I'm also missing the centre caps, and have tried searching but can't seem to find any replacements anywhere (either originals with the backward r or some kind of decent reproduction). I'll put some pictures on here on Sunday of what mine are like. |
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 22,238 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch ![]() |
Tom, do the center caps push in from the front or back of the wheel?
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OldMember ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
![]() (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Flashy,polished,and much effort. Looks good though,the edges all given a radius and high sheen. / |
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OldMember ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
![]() Smoothed,sanded,vibratory semi dull finish,anodized/candy clearcoat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) / |
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working on my first 914 ! ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe ![]() |
These are on my 73.
The PO did not put them on..he bought the car like that, so at least on the car for 19 years and i think from the start.since i have all maint history and nothing mentions new wheels. I will have to replace or clean the bolts for sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ![]() |
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I drive my car everyday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,335 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 ![]() |
Like said before, they did not come on the car! The first owner probably put them on shortly after purchase. My 75 came with Fuchs. The Original owner drove straight to the tire store from the dealer and installed Dan gurney westerns. Duh! It happens. It has its Fuchs back now.
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