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rgalla9146
post Sep 19 2016, 10:14 AM
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Found this on Ebay.de !

http://www.ebay.de/itm/PORSCHE-914-6-Getri...1cAAOSw-kdXyxoq


The one in Germany is more like it.
Seems to me that all of the missing parts could be found in the 911 world for cheap.
Many era correct 911Sportos have been converted to stick.
I saw a Sporto pedal assy. at the Pa. swap meet on Saturday.
I sold a rusty '68 911 recently that had the vacuum solenoids still in it.
The rear cover is probably one of the few 914 specific parts.
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post Sep 19 2016, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Sep 19 2016, 05:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Nutter965 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:46 AM) *

Found this on Ebay.de !

http://www.ebay.de/itm/PORSCHE-914-6-Getri...1cAAOSw-kdXyxoq


The one in Germany is more like it.
Seems to me that all of the missing parts could be found in the 911 world for cheap.
Many era correct 911Sportos have been converted to stick.
I saw a Sporto pedal assy. at the Pa. swap meet on Saturday.
I sold a rusty '68 911 recently that had the vacuum solenoids still in it.
The rear cover is probably one of the few 914 specific parts.


I've bought from that seller in the past, fast shipment & even though the add says posts to Germany, scroll down and he will ship to other locations. USA would be spendy in shipping and customs.....

Love the idea and challenge of an all Porsche -4 sporto, but if this is all about driver continued enjoyment then boxter/ Audi route still feels the more logical one, more availability on bits & less dollars
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post Sep 19 2016, 04:00 PM
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Not so sure the parts are cheap.
A few sporto owners are starting to convert back
I sold off my stash recently and did quite well
Still have the tranny though.
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post Sep 19 2016, 04:13 PM
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went and looked at my 70 sports setup. looks very doable for a /4. mine looks to be actuated by a solenoid on the clutch lever and pick ups on the the shifter lever. not vacuum. i could be wrong. there is extra oil and pump for torque converter i believe. my understanding is that it is not an automatic transmission but more an automatic clutch transmission. its still has to be shifted thru the gears.
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post Sep 19 2016, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(N_Jay @ Sep 17 2016, 12:50 PM) *

Is it the same concept as a VW Semi-Auto?

If so, it was a manual with a TC in front and a pneumatically operated clutch that disengaged when you first started moving the shift lever.

The 1972 VW was a 3 speed and it did 0-to-60 in just over a full minute!

You could jury-rig the shifter switch by using some type of pushbutton in the shift lever. (A little extra manual control.)


Couldn't a vw unit be modified to work? You can buy a whole Auto Stick car on theSamba for $700. also one for $900. Either of these would have all the parts. Just need to mod. linkage, peddles, flip r&p, figure out how to mount. You can part out the beetle for extra beer money along the way.
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post Sep 19 2016, 06:27 PM
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See Mark Henry's earlier response: The Bug one was a two-speed (plus super-low) and couldn't hold much power. Check for a Type III one, and that might work.

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post Sep 19 2016, 06:36 PM
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I had thought the same thing about Beatle auto stick..

Making progress on the acquisition of the 914.. My dad is arranging a roll back.. Hopefully we can make something happen.
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post Sep 19 2016, 06:59 PM
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See Mark Henry's earlier response: The Bug one was a two-speed (plus super-low) and couldn't hold much power. Check for a Type III one, and that might work.

--DD

oops, missed that.
However, his dad isn't building a race car...

type 3 never had autostick, only the full automatic.
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:55 PM
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if hes set on the air cooled motor im sure somthing could b done to mate a type 4 to a subaru fwd auto
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post Sep 19 2016, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 19 2016, 08:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 19 2016, 05:27 PM) *

See Mark Henry's earlier response: The Bug one was a two-speed (plus super-low) and couldn't hold much power. Check for a Type III one, and that might work.

--DD

oops, missed that.
However, his dad isn't building a race car...

type 3 never had autostick, only the full automatic.


No but a 1.7 T4 is around 80hp right? The auto stick will go up in smoke at 80hp even with my grandmother driving it.
And she's been dead for 20 years.

Yes the T3 is full auto, it can easily handle 100+hp.

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post Sep 20 2016, 09:38 AM
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The awesome thing about this is the options.. My dad has zero intentions of racing the car just driving it.. Should be fun
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post Sep 20 2016, 09:43 AM
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The parts catalogue available as a PDF here includes diagrams and part numbers for all of the 914-6 sporto stuff:

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/origi...lkXobggzeflWo6g
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post Sep 20 2016, 10:24 AM
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Take good notes and lots of picture no matter which way you go.

I would love to see an Audi trans mounted up.

Could you imagine a 914 with a 2.7T V6 and a six speed?
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post Sep 20 2016, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(andrewvolsen @ Sep 20 2016, 11:43 AM) *

The parts catalogue available as a PDF here includes diagrams and part numbers for all of the 914-6 sporto stuff:

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/origi...lkXobggzeflWo6g

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Dokument nicht gefunden.Link nfg.

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/origi...914_KATALOG.pdf

Pg 127/314-Sportomatic.
Every owner and interested party should have this katalog,all the parts.

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post Sep 20 2016, 11:54 AM
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So as the story unfolds looks like it maybe a 411 autostick.. That could cause for a challenge in itself but I know there are allot of options as I could still do a sporto conversion as I know several with those parts.
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post Sep 20 2016, 12:06 PM
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So as the story unfolds looks like it maybe a 411 autostick.. That could cause for a challenge in itself but I know there are allot of options as I could still do a sporto conversion as I know several with those parts.

Type 4, 411 automatic is the same as in the T3....it's not an autostick, it's a fully automatic 3 speed made by Borg-Warner.
It will work as long as you can flip the diff.
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post Sep 20 2016, 12:18 PM
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go for it, the sporto parts aren't that hard to find. call Jim at EASY, he has sporto parts.
i'll look around i may have some left i will give you.

i had a special order 78 SC with a sporto from the factory, the car was super fast off the line.

send me a PM if you go for it and i will send what i have.
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post Sep 22 2016, 10:13 AM
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post Sep 22 2016, 11:28 AM
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Found this on ebay... Not a reputable seller, but it proves something like this might be had for cheep enough to try!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Semi-Auto-Clutch-S...BMAAOSwepZXR8Co


This was someone's review of it back in 04
http://benmlee.com/4Runner/autoclutch/Auto_Clutch.htm
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post Sep 23 2016, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Sep 22 2016, 09:28 AM) *

Found this on ebay... Not a reputable seller, but it proves something like this might be had for cheep enough to try!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Semi-Auto-Clutch-S...BMAAOSwepZXR8Co


This was someone's review of it back in 04
http://benmlee.com/4Runner/autoclutch/Auto_Clutch.htm



Now that would be an awesome.. I am going to look into it.
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