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The charm of an early 1.7, What is it? |
orthobiz |
Sep 19 2016, 05:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'm looking at possibly buying an unmolested 1971 and as the owner of two 1974's, what is there to recommend the early cars? I'm thinking about the prone-to-failure window cranks, fixed passenger seat, unreinforced doors, oil bath air filter, tail shifter, central vent, etc. as potential liabilities rather than assets. Am I wrong? Gotta admit, I think steelies rule!
Also, is it possible to have textured seats with smooth vinyl door panels? Johnson's book says the textured seats were "available" but "apparently not fitted." Thanks, Paul |
Garland |
Sep 19 2016, 06:04 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,329 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Paul, I've owned many early teeners over the years. I've had two cars with smooth door panels, and textured seats.
Never had a window crank fail. Beyond that, all other failures of our wonderful cars are typical but not unique to the early years. Have had many tail shifters and a couple side shift, have not noticed major concerns between the two has so many others have stated. Unreinforced doors or later, oil bath filters can be replaced but I still use mine. |
rgalla9146 |
Sep 19 2016, 08:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,555 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I don't know about the smooth door/textured seat issue but I can say that the vinyl upholstery in a 1971 was a one year only pattern.
Compared to other years it had a larger 'grain' (elephant hyde ?) and was very shiny. I would gladly own a 1970 1.7 By now the remedies for early car issues are well known. Finding a solid example is the challenge. |
mepstein |
Sep 19 2016, 09:12 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,275 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I like the early cars. Light. Classic look. Simple. Quirky. Baby GT's.
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jrblackbox |
Sep 19 2016, 10:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 8-September 15 From: Easton, CT Member No.: 19,140 Region Association: None |
I love my little 71 1.7 peashooter, even though it has steelies, a fixed passenger seat and tailshifter!
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SKL1 |
Sep 19 2016, 02:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,602 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Interior vinyl can be very confusing. My '71 was built in 9/70. My dad bought one about 6 months after I got mine and it was a 3/71 build, still a '71. Interior was totally different than mine...
Still love my'71 after 45 years, but admittedly it isn't a tailshifter anymore, and has OEM 914-6 running gear. |
jrblackbox |
Sep 19 2016, 02:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 285 Joined: 8-September 15 From: Easton, CT Member No.: 19,140 Region Association: None |
Interior vinyl can be very confusing. My '71 was built in 9/70. My dad bought one about 6 months after I got mine and it was a 3/71 build, still a '71. Interior was totally different than mine... Still love my'71 after 45 years, but admittedly it isn't a tailshifter anymore, and has OEM 914-6 running gear. hmmm... my 71 was built in 9/70 as well! |
era vulgaris |
Sep 19 2016, 04:45 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
I'm looking at possibly buying an unmolested 1971 and as the owner of two 1974's, what is there to recommend the early cars? I'm thinking about the prone-to-failure window cranks, fixed passenger seat, unreinforced doors, oil bath air filter, tail shifter, central vent, etc. as potential liabilities rather than assets. Am I wrong? Gotta admit, I think steelies rule! Also, is it possible to have textured seats with smooth vinyl door panels? Johnson's book says the textured seats were "available" but "apparently not fitted." Thanks, Paul You forgot about the dash mounted windshield wiper switch! But I don't look at all those traits as liabilities. I think they're all charming in their own way. I've owned a big fire-breathing 914 and it was fun, but the next 914 I get will be an early 1.7. I just love the look of the steelies with hubcaps. And I'd prefer to have a car that's a bit more simplistic, and that looks a bit more classic. Now it's just a matter of finding a good one! |
mark04usa |
Sep 19 2016, 08:12 PM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Early 914 1.7 is a simple, honest car. Fun to drive on twisty roads, and keeps up with hiway traffic no problem. My Jan '70 1.7 on this past 914 day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Chris Pincetich |
Sep 19 2016, 10:11 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Older is cooler (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
'nuff said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
mepstein |
Sep 20 2016, 05:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,275 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Early 914 1.7 is a simple, honest car. Fun to drive on twisty roads, and keeps up with hiway traffic no problem. My Jan '70 1.7 on this past 914 day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Mine cruises at hiway speeds just fine but the acceleration is so bad that I feel like I will get run over every time traffic slows down and then speeds back up. I'm yelling for more power and the little engine is screaming she's giving me all she's got. That should all get fixed with the addition of a 3.2 |
913B |
Sep 20 2016, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 25-April 05 From: South Bay/SoCal Member No.: 3,983 Region Association: None |
No kidding my stocker 1.7 is gutless. I have to be careful passing vehicles I don't think I can pass anything on the roads today. Makes me want to get a bigger motor but don't want to deal with regrets of cooling issue. Oh well someday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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0396 |
Sep 20 2016, 08:20 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
No kidding my stocker 1.7 is gutless. I have to be careful passing vehicles I don't think I can pass anything on the roads today. Makes me want to get a bigger motor but don't want to deal with regrets of cooling issue. Oh well someday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) +1 on stock 1.7 being gutless against the current state of cars on the local highways. My .02 cents, if you want it, get it...simple |
mepstein |
Sep 20 2016, 08:29 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,275 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No kidding my stocker 1.7 is gutless. I have to be careful passing vehicles I don't think I can pass anything on the roads today. Makes me want to get a bigger motor but don't want to deal with regrets of cooling issue. Oh well someday (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) +1 on stock 1.7 being gutless against the current state of cars on the local highways. My .02 cents, if you want it, get it...simple It's fine around town. Lots of smiles per miles. |
Rav914 |
Sep 20 2016, 10:11 AM
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All-weather fan Group: Members Posts: 738 Joined: 15-April 07 From: WA Member No.: 7,669 Region Association: None |
I loved my '70. The windshield wiper switch, smooth door panels, silver dot guages, and late model steelies were the aesthetic items I liked. It felt solid and when I put a 1911cc motor in it, it moved quickly. Would like to have another someday (-6 conversion).
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mark04usa |
Sep 20 2016, 11:37 AM
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'70 1.7 Tangerine Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 14-September 09 From: Austin TX Member No.: 10,805 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You folks with "gutless" 1.7's must either have a very poor running engine (likely way over carbureted) or do not know how to drive the car. My car is a stock 914, not a hot rod. It is a great car the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
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Garland |
Sep 20 2016, 11:51 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,329 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
You folks with "gutless" 1.7's must either have a very poor running engine (likely way over carbureted) or do not know how to drive the car. My car is a stock 914, not a hot rod. It is a great car the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) 60 in the straightaway, 90 in the curves. Stock 1.7 driven well, can have some very long legs. |
914_teener |
Sep 20 2016, 12:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
You folks with "gutless" 1.7's must either have a very poor running engine (likely way over carbureted) or do not know how to drive the car. My car is a stock 914, not a hot rod. It is a great car the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) 60 in the straightaway, 90 in the curves. Stock 1.7 driven well, can have some very long legs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Well said. With the stock injection WELL TUNED and working. It is fun. Makes it hard for me to finish my 2056 project. |
913B |
Sep 20 2016, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 25-April 05 From: South Bay/SoCal Member No.: 3,983 Region Association: None |
You folks with "gutless" 1.7's must either have a very poor running engine (likely way over carbureted) or do not know how to drive the car. My car is a stock 914, not a hot rod. It is a great car the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Hmm really ? Mines is with the stock D-Jet and come to think about it. The PO had put some bigger jugs in them when it got rebuilt as I recall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) but maybe its me driver then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
914_teener |
Sep 20 2016, 12:39 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
You folks with "gutless" 1.7's must either have a very poor running engine (likely way over carbureted) or do not know how to drive the car. My car is a stock 914, not a hot rod. It is a great car the way it is. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Hmm really ? Mines is with the stock D-Jet and come to think about it. The PO had put some bigger jugs in them when it got rebuilt as I recall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) but maybe its me driver then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) ....or with the bigger pistons the D-jet is not calibrated right. Well tuned? |
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