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> Crack, or normal casting?
74ravenna
post Sep 24 2016, 10:04 AM
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Is this a superficial blem in the casting?
Once magnified it appears to be but I just want to get some knowledgeable folks opinion.


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post Sep 25 2016, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Sep 25 2016, 10:56 PM) *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiYnDskFxTo

Burning metal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

VW/Porsche made the Type4 engine from aluminum for it's tensile strength,not for it's 'unflammabilty'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Heated magnesium castings to fit interference bearings,circa '70s,did not catch fire back then.
Intentionally lit hair-thin magnesium and titanium turnings,and without the added heat of the torch,went out.
A puddle of molten magnesium can be lit up with an oxygen rich atmospere and added torch heat.
So,yeah,the metal can light up,but,it isn't like it will spontaneously combust.
Putting a torch to a casting long enough to melt,will result in a puddle of magnesium on the floor.
It would be very difficult to ignite a casting such as the VW cases,the wall thickness and mass too great.
Welding the material with ox-ac in the past was a difficult job,no doubt,but quite possible tho.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=oxygen-acety...gA&dpr=1.75
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https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...agnesium+solder
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The round spots on the die-cast magnesium engine parts:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ejector+pins...RLODYQQ_AUIBigB

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Without this turning ugly, I suggest that you Google "magnesium fires". If you go back to the early days of the Beetle, VW used magnesium for its cases. The magnesium did not "spontaneously combust". Fires usually started from other faults such as fuel leaks or electrical fires. Once the engine saw fire, the magnesium would combust. I saw one burn like that when I was in college back in the 60's. And, water will not extinguish a magnesium fire. You let them burn until they run out of fuel. Or, you can foam the fire, though I never did witness that.

And, I believe that VW went to aluminum because it was less expensive than magnesium, and more stable. Not for its combustibility as you pointed out.
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74ravenna   Crack   Sep 24 2016, 10:04 AM
stugray   casting imperfections. They are covered in them.   Sep 24 2016, 10:08 AM
The Cabinetmaker   What is that we are looking at?   Sep 24 2016, 10:08 AM
dangrouche   What is that we are looking at? looks like under...   Sep 24 2016, 05:16 PM
injunmort   is that the cylinder spigot?   Sep 24 2016, 05:24 PM
earossi   Appears to be a surface crack in the spigot on a c...   Sep 24 2016, 07:15 PM
stugray   Appears to be a surface crack in the spigot on a ...   Sep 25 2016, 01:28 AM
veekry9   Shrinkage of diecast surfaces,a subject of depth a...   Sep 25 2016, 02:09 AM
74ravenna   Its the top of the engine where the cylinder head ...   Sep 25 2016, 04:51 AM
rgalla9146   Its the top of the engine where the cylinder head...   Sep 25 2016, 05:50 AM
earossi   Its the top of the engine where the cylinder hea...   Sep 25 2016, 06:27 AM
veekry9   Not a crack,it's a 'shrink riser'. The...   Sep 25 2016, 06:48 AM
74ravenna   Not a crack,it's a 'shrink riser'. Th...   Sep 25 2016, 07:03 AM
76-914   I think it happens on all Aluminum engines. The Su...   Sep 25 2016, 07:16 AM
Mikey914   Only one way to tell for sure. File the imperfecti...   Sep 25 2016, 09:47 AM
bretth   I read about using a torch to briefly heat up a su...   Sep 25 2016, 10:53 AM
Mikey914   Wouldn't personally use a torch on this, too m...   Sep 25 2016, 02:17 PM
earossi   Hitting magnesium with a torch will ignite it; so,...   Sep 25 2016, 02:38 PM
veekry9   AiYnDskFxTo Burning metal! :blink: VW/Porsch...   Sep 25 2016, 09:56 PM
earossi   AiYnDskFxTo Burning metal! :blink: VW/Porsc...   Sep 25 2016, 11:35 PM
ThePaintedMan   Without this turning ugly, I suggest that you Go...   Sep 26 2016, 07:16 AM
veekry9   Yep,that is why we had the specialized fire ex...   Sep 26 2016, 12:49 AM
Beach914   Magnesium solids will not normally combust when ex...   Sep 26 2016, 07:50 AM
mbseto   In college chemistry, we had a stash of magnesium ...   Sep 26 2016, 08:08 AM
Mikey914   You can light them with a flare, so it takes a goo...   Sep 26 2016, 10:55 AM
veekry9   George,you have attributed those words to me,a res...   Sep 28 2016, 01:39 AM
bretth   I didn't think someone would take a torch to a...   Sep 28 2016, 04:30 AM


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