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> Best (affordable) muffler for 914-4 with 103mm Cylinders., It is waaaaay to loud...!
HansJan
post Nov 3 2016, 09:56 PM
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Hello,

Sorry to ask (could not find it by search).

My 914 has 103mm cylinders and aftermarket cam etc. While this makes it faster, the noise is just crazy. Looking to see which muffler is recommended to drastically lower the dB's.
Currently have the muffler shown in picture.
Should it be Dansk style or should it be Bursch type setup?

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My car is definitely not (yet) worth the Tangerine muffler.



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post Nov 3 2016, 10:56 PM
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Do the Bursch.
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post Nov 4 2016, 05:54 AM
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I found the Bursch was too loud for me and replaced the muffler in the Bursch unit with one from Summit racing (PN MPE 11124 - $87 + shipping) at the recommendation of others on this forum. It now sounds great.
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:46 AM
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doesn't m&k make a muffler for the type 4?

nope.
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:59 AM
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Bursch is going to be loud. Liestritz or Dansk, Liestriz is the most quiet but all you'll find is 40 year old used.
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post Nov 4 2016, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(michael7810 @ Nov 4 2016, 07:54 AM) *

I found the Bursch was too loud for me and replaced the muffler in the Bursch unit with one from Summit racing (PN MPE 11124 - $87 + shipping) at the recommendation of others on this forum. It now sounds great.

I have a Magnaflo on my 2.6L (102x78mm) T4 bug...loud as fuck.

If you want to try a magnaflow I'd first try the corvette style, with the in/out on the same side.

https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mpe-14210/overview/
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post Nov 4 2016, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(Perry Kiehl @ Nov 4 2016, 06:59 AM) *

Bursch is going to be loud. Liestritz or Dansk, Liestriz is the most quiet but all you'll find is 40 year old used.


This one is leistitz and yes it is quiet. I still have it for back up.

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post Nov 4 2016, 09:19 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, that's a Bursch glasspack and should be loud. Bursch also has a regular muffler that sounds ok. All you need is to replace the muffler and keep the pipes adapter.
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post Nov 4 2016, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(Valy @ Nov 4 2016, 08:19 AM) *

If I'm not mistaken, that's a Bursch glasspack and should be loud. Bursch also has a regular muffler that sounds ok. All you need is to replace the muffler and keep the pipes adapter.


Currently I'm using a bursch pipes with Magnaflow muffler and sounds a little loud but I think it is just right. Before I used glasspack and it is so loud for my neighborhood. The leistritz is too quiet and for me it seems I'm not driving a 914. But again I will keep the leistritz for my back up in case I get some complain from my neighbor with the magnaflow/bursch set up.
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post Nov 4 2016, 01:16 PM
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I have had these Euro-headers on my 2.2liter for about 13 years. Inexpensive and fairly quiet. My wife thinks they are too loud and my neighbors... Well who gives a $hit what they think right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)


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post Nov 4 2016, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(dflesburg @ Nov 4 2016, 09:46 AM) *

doesn't m&k make a muffler for the type 4?

nope.

I bought the prototype from Ben. Now Zach has it.
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post Nov 4 2016, 02:04 PM
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Wouldn't a Boxster soften the sound ?
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post Nov 4 2016, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Valy @ Nov 4 2016, 07:19 AM) *

If I'm not mistaken, that's a Bursch glasspack and should be loud. Bursch also has a regular muffler that sounds ok. All you need is to replace the muffler and keep the pipes adapter.


That is not a Bursch, the collector arrangement is different. It might be a Thunderbird or Sebring. I used a Bursch for several years and was generally satisfied with the sound. But when you add displacement and carbs your noise level will probably rise a bit! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Nov 4 2016, 05:40 PM
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Wouldn't a Boxster soften the sound ?

Boxster mufflers are boat anchors. They're heavier than the rest of the car ...
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post Nov 4 2016, 06:15 PM
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Do all of these mufflers have the same bolt-pattern and flanges?
I am offered a Leistitz (suitable for 1.7/1.8). Will this work on my 2.3l car?
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post Nov 29 2016, 10:10 PM
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Sorry to keep bothering you all.

I have gotten an exhaust system from some-one locally.
Looks like Sebring (as seen on Pelican web-site).
Wire brushed it.
Painted it.
Bought the gaskets.

To find that it doesn't fit.
The pipes are to close to one-another.

The distance between the inner bolt holes is 19 3/4".
On the car it is 21 1/2".

Car is from 1972.
Engine is 2.0 l block with 103mm cylinders.

If I were to order a Dansk style Muffler on-line, how would I make sure that it is going to fit?

Thanks for your help.
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post Nov 29 2016, 10:49 PM
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Its pretty simple. The heat exchangers on your car are 1.7L/1.8L and the extractor you bought is for 2.0L HE's. Find a 1.7L exhaust, or 2.0L HE's and it will fit.


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post Nov 29 2016, 10:59 PM
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Thank you soo much, for your very clear and complete answer.
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post Nov 30 2016, 12:15 AM
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I would gladly accept that nicely painted 2.0L extractor as equitable compensation for my services! Sorry for your efforts to date, it must be frustrating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 30 2016, 01:02 AM
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It is no good to me. You can have it.
Just come by, to pick it up.....
Or figure out how to ship it.

Ps; extractor is the four-pipe curly bit?
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