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seatbelt question, do I need this piece? |
914 RZ-1 |
Nov 4 2016, 05:40 PM
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Porsche Padawan Group: Members Posts: 682 Joined: 17-December 14 From: Santa Clarita, CA Member No.: 18,230 Region Association: Southern California |
I was looking at seatbelts on seatbeltplanet.com. They have a listing for retractable belts that will fit a 73-76, but my 72 has the cutouts in the firewall. I currently have retractable belts on it but would like to play it safe and get new ones.
Here is the listing: https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/seatbelts-an...ts/332/view/125 I talked to someone there and I think I can use the ones they sell. If they fit 73-76, they should fit mine, IF I have the cutouts, right? QUESTION: Do I need the metal "cage" piece shown in the picture? The seatbeltplanet ones do not have this piece. I could cut a slot in it and insert the belt, but I'd rather not. I'm not sure if I can loop the belt thru it, either. Anyone buy these or have any input/experience with this? Anyone use this company before? They seem really knowledgeable. Attached thumbnail(s) |
ThunderbirdDrive |
Nov 4 2016, 10:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 3-March 16 From: Toronto Canada Member No.: 19,724 Region Association: Canada |
I used these very ones in my '76. Direct fit, plug and play.
I'd recommend them. I was looking at seatbelts on seatbeltplanet.com. They have a listing for retractable belts that will fit a 73-76, but my 72 has the cutouts in the firewall. I currently have retractable belts on it but would like to play it safe and get new ones. L Here is the listing: https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/seatbelts-an...ts/332/view/125 I talked to someone there and I think I can use the ones they sell. If they fit 73-76, they should fit mine, IF I have the cutouts, right? QUESTION: Do I need the metal "cage" piece shown in the picture? The seatbeltplanet ones do not have this piece. I could cut a slot in it and insert the belt, but I'd rather not. I'm not sure if I can loop the belt thru it, either. Anyone buy these or have any input/experience with this? Anyone use this company before? They seem really knowledgeable. |
914 RZ-1 |
Nov 5 2016, 04:05 PM
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Porsche Padawan Group: Members Posts: 682 Joined: 17-December 14 From: Santa Clarita, CA Member No.: 18,230 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you need or use the metal cages?
I used these very ones in my '76. Direct fit, plug and play. I'd recommend them. I was looking at seatbelts on seatbeltplanet.com. They have a listing for retractable belts that will fit a 73-76, but my 72 has the cutouts in the firewall. I currently have retractable belts on it but would like to play it safe and get new ones. L Here is the listing: https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/seatbelts-an...ts/332/view/125 I talked to someone there and I think I can use the ones they sell. If they fit 73-76, they should fit mine, IF I have the cutouts, right? QUESTION: Do I need the metal "cage" piece shown in the picture? The seatbeltplanet ones do not have this piece. I could cut a slot in it and insert the belt, but I'd rather not. I'm not sure if I can loop the belt thru it, either. Anyone buy these or have any input/experience with this? Anyone use this company before? They seem really knowledgeable. |
mmascari |
Nov 5 2016, 09:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 1-September 14 From: Concord, CA Member No.: 17,850 Region Association: None |
Hey Thunderbird, are those belts "Red" or "Flame Red"? They offer two colors, just curious which ones are in your pictures. Thanks
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McMark |
Nov 6 2016, 08:33 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,177 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
They help guide the belt so that it spools straight on the reel. I wouldnt leave them out. If the chrome is flaking it can hang/catch on the webbing and impede retraction. Ideally you should send them out for rechroming.
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db9146 |
Nov 6 2016, 08:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None |
No to highjack the thread but has anyone fitted retractable belts to an early 914 w/o the pockets in the firewall?
Okay, I'm highjacking the thread....but only a little. Still OT...sort of. |
seanpaulmc |
May 19 2017, 11:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
They help guide the belt so that it spools straight on the reel. I wouldnt leave them out. If the chrome is flaking it can hang/catch on the webbing and impede retraction. Ideally you should send them out for rechroming. What is a reasonable cost for the rechroming of the guide bracket? I got this quote through emailing a vendor pictures. Reasonable? Note, I had only asked about the chrome guide bracket but they expanded a bit probably because of the pictures. Guide bracket: $60.00 to $75.00 each Seat belt reel: $85.00 to $100.00 each Small triangle mounting bracket: $35.00 to $45.00 each. A 6% metals fee, sales tax and any return shipping is added to all jobs. 50%(cash or check only) deposit. Don't know what this service costs so I have no reference other than cost for a set of new belts. Thank you!! |
Bartlett 914 |
May 19 2017, 11:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,213 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
They help guide the belt so that it spools straight on the reel. I wouldnt leave them out. If the chrome is flaking it can hang/catch on the webbing and impede retraction. Ideally you should send them out for rechroming. What is a reasonable cost for the rechroming of the guide bracket? I got this quote through emailing a vendor pictures. Reasonable? Note, I had only asked about the chrome guide bracket but they expanded a bit probably because of the pictures. Guide bracket: $60.00 to $75.00 each Seat belt reel: $85.00 to $100.00 each Small triangle mounting bracket: $35.00 to $45.00 each. A 6% metals fee, sales tax and any return shipping is added to all jobs. 50%(cash or check only) deposit. Don't know what this service costs so I have no reference other than cost for a set of new belts. Thank you!! I almost think it would be cheaper to make a new one from Stainless steel |
Andyrew |
May 19 2017, 02:51 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Seem quite expensive to me since those parts are typically throw away items
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slotty008 |
May 19 2017, 03:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: 11-November 15 From: Belgium Member No.: 19,349 Region Association: None |
I polished my guide brackets with a sanding paper and a fine steel brush on a dremel. They feel very smooth again and it gives them a certain patina. And it's free.
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Larmo63 |
May 19 2017, 11:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Those chrome guides can be carefully split and re-used.
Carefully. |
SirAndy |
May 20 2017, 12:04 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,560 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Did you need or use the metal cages? Seatbelt retractors only work if the belt is pulled out straight, which is why the metal "cage" is there. Anything that makes the belt not pull perfectly straight will make your new belts useless ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
Shadowfax |
May 20 2017, 06:39 AM
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Show us the meaning of haste Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 19-January 15 Member No.: 18,340 Region Association: South East States |
I didn't reuse that piece. The Seat Belt Planet kit comes with a guide plate that takes its place. I haven't had any issues with the belts not retracting properly. Sorry I didn't take pics of my install.
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GeorgeRud |
May 20 2017, 06:48 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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914 RZ-1 |
May 20 2017, 10:01 PM
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Porsche Padawan Group: Members Posts: 682 Joined: 17-December 14 From: Santa Clarita, CA Member No.: 18,230 Region Association: Southern California |
I have these same seat belts and did not put in the chrome piece and they work fine.
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