914-6 Wiring Schematic, Anyone got a better one than this Options

[SixerJ]

Hi Guys,

I've been trawling 914 World and the internet generally for a cleaner copy of the attached for my '70 -6

I have found links to this http://www.zapfenterprises.com/orderInfo.html which is the only colour option in existence, as at would appear the factory never bothered & probably will order in the fullness of time

I've also managed to find what I think is a diagram for the '72 six on Jeff's site here http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zMan_1970-7...2Supplement.pdf

I've got an electronic copy of the workshop manuals (I'm assuming the electrical section is complete), no luck there either. I've also taken a peep at my friends set of paper manuals, which had the attached as a photocopy slipped in

This diagram seems to be the holy grail of wiring diagrams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) & I would appear to have run into a wall for the early cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) & any help greatly appreciated

Thanks
Jon

 Porsche_914_6_Black_and_White_Wiring_Diagram_Scan_V1.pdf ( 866.73k ) Number of downloads: 677

[GeorgeRud]

Those are the only two that I've ever seen. Art Zapf did a great job, but isn't giving them away by any means.

Many circuits are similar to the -4, so the current flow diagrams in the workshop manuals should often get you pretty far.

[914Sixer]

The Art Zapf one is the only one to consider. Is the the web site current? They were NLA about 10 years ago.

[type47fan]

Hi Guys,

I've been trawling 914 World and the internet generally for a cleaner copy of the attached for my '70 -6

I have found links to this http://www.zapfenterprises.com/orderInfo.html which is the only colour option in existence, as at would appear the factory never bothered & probably will order in the fullness of time

I've also managed to find what I think is a diagram for the '72 six on Jeff's site here http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zMan_1970-7...2Supplement.pdf

I've got an electronic copy of the workshop manuals (I'm assuming the electrical section is complete), no luck there either. I've also taken a peep at my friends set of paper manuals, which had the attached as a photocopy slipped in

This diagram seems to be the holy grail of wiring diagrams (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) & I would appear to have run into a wall for the early cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) & any help greatly appreciated

Thanks
Jon

 Porsche_914_6_Black_and_White_Wiring_Diagram_Scan_V1.pdf ( 866.73k ) Number of downloads: 677

Jon (SixerJ), I purchased one from Arthur Zapf in November, 2001. It was printed on November 07, 2001 and has been rolled up in the shipping tube since that time. The image is his glossy color photo print of 18" x 23".

Attached is a picture I just took, for this post, of some detail from the center of the print. It's definitely a 10. I'll sell it for $95.00, plus shipping/insurance.

Jon, since you expressed your interest in the World Garage and not the Classifieds, I'm responding initially here. If you're interested, send me a PM and we can discuss a change of ownership. If you don't want it, let me know and I'll re-post it in the World Classified Forum, where it really belongs.

Best regards,
Wayne Cowie
type47fan

[Cairo94507]

That seems like a good deal for a product which is commonly referred to as one of the best wiring diagrams out there. Good luck.

[peteyd]

Im sure Kroon would have a diagram, whether he is willing to sell you one is another question.

http://www.kroonwireharnesses.com/porsche-...sche-914-6-1970

Pete

[gereed75]

I got a color diagram from Art about 2 years ago. I got he impression that it was the last or nearly the last one and he would not be making anymore.

It is a good diagram but a little hard to follow the colors.

He had paper B/W printed diagrams that I suspect are from the factory manual. They are smaller but very detailed and clear and I actually find them easier to use. He may have more of these.

Unfortunately I am traveling and will not have access to them. Try to contact Art or maybe someone else has them??

[SixerJ]

PM sent to Type47, hopefully this will work out, thanks guys

[type47fan]

Funds were received and the Zapf schematic has been shipped to SixerJ across the pond. Thanks, Jon.

PM sent to Type47, hopefully this will work out, thanks guys

[Dave_Darling]

As far as I can tell, you have three choices when it comes to 914-6 wiring diagrams.

1- The B&W-only one on Pelican, which is kind of crappy but seems to be the factory diagram
2- Art Zapf's actual color diagram, which seems to be hard to get ahold of
3- Make one yourself

And possibly, you could talk Kroon into printing one for you.

--DD

[gereed75]

I got a set of b/w ones from Art. They are better detailed, more concise than his color ones and I have found no errors on them when using them with my early 70 six. I believe he had some b/w ones left but no color ones. That was about a year ago.

I would call the pelican one marginally usable because you can not read the colors

[SixerJ]

Sage advice as always (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smiley_notworthy.gif) from this forum

The search for information started with me wanting to document a six engine wiring harness that I bought from TC a while back (along with the main harness) as a replacement for my six. It's current harness has been badly hacked around and generally toast

Really happy with the purchase of the colour plan from type47fan, I will also contact Art to see if he has any B&W ones still. Options are always good, especially if the options are thin on the ground

[bahnzai]

FYI- As an update, I was in contact with Art through his website (quick, easy response). He still has all three versions available, and I went ahead and ordered a color one.

[ZIPSIXR]

After reviewing these posts, let me clear some things up.
Art Zapf is still around, that is me. I took down my website because sales did not justify the costs.

Regarding the SIX wire schematics
When I researched this subject in the early 1980s, I found two Six schematics: A European version and a US version with a diagnostic box. Neither one represented the cars we have in the US. It is why I decided to make them.
There are no others worldwide to my knowledge unless it is a copy of mine.

If you look to Kroon, his wire harnesses were built to my schematic - I sold one to him.

I have sold these world wide for you the 914-6 owners as I no longer have my six, sadly.
I made the Black and white first and it is made to fit fan folded in the factory manual.
The color was made before computers using graphic tape. It took years before I could get it color copied and it a digital database.
I have plenty of B&W, sadly down to one each of the gloss and encapsulated ones. There are expensive to print, plus my time place orders, pick them up and ship. With sales down to one or two a year, it may not be worth my time and money to print enough in volume to give you better prices. The way of the world.

I am looking for the right person or entity to pass this database to for it be available in the future for the SIX community, but a price - I think I earned it.
I can be reached by email: arthurzapf@gmail.com

[914Sixer]

Someone NEEDS to step up for this opportunity.

@Mikey914

[barefoot]

Here is workshop manual, but it looks like only 4 cylinders wiring diagrams included:
Also 6 cyl. diagram 2nd link. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
http://p914-6info.net/PDFs/Group%209%20Electrical.pdf

http://web.archive.org/web/20121020040552/..._electrical.jpg

[Mikey914]

We have been setting up to do the wirring harnesses in mass and I will contact Art to see if we can work something out.

[ClayPerrine]

As far as I can tell, you have three choices when it comes to 914-6 wiring diagrams.

1- The B&W-only one on Pelican, which is kind of crappy but seems to be the factory diagram
2- Art Zapf's actual color diagram, which seems to be hard to get ahold of
3- Make one yourself

And possibly, you could talk Kroon into printing one for you.

--DD

I have the book that the Black and White one on Pelican came from. It doesn't have the pencil marking on it like the one on Pelican. I sent it to Pelican years ago to tell them to update it, but they never did.

Clay

[peteyd]

We have been producing the /6 harness for several years now and we have Schematics that are very easy to read.

We did not copy Arts work. We used an NOS harness and measured every wire.

Pete

[mepstein]

Someone NEEDS to step up for this opportunity.

@Mikey914

"I took down my website because sales did not justify the costs."

"With sales down to one or two a year, it may not be worth my time and money to print enough in volume to give you better prices. The way of the world."

If multiple vendors are already supplying schematics, it doesn't sound like there is much opportunity here.