914-6 Wiring Schematic, Anyone got a better one than this Options

[rgalla9146]

We have been producing the /6 harness for several years now and we have Schematics that are very easy to read.

We did not copy Arts work. We used an NOS harness and measured every wire.

Pete

That's good news Pete.
What does your schematic sell for ? what size ? what is it on ?
Possible to show some portion here as a sample ?
Thank you
Rory

[peteyd]

The cost of a schematic is $40-$60. I can't remember the exact number.

Everything is labelled with colouring and tags. Its laid out as if the harness is flat in front of you. By far the easiest diagrams I have ever had to read.

[mepstein]

The cost of a schematic is $40-$60. I can't remember the exact number.

Everything is labelled with colouring and tags. Its laid out as if the harness is flat in front of you. By far the easiest diagrams I have ever had to read.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) that looks like something even I could follow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

[gereed75]

wow. that has some detail - terminal numbers, colors, termination depictions, connectors all in one. and no wires "cross over". Must have taken a lot of time to compile and organize.

Different approach and like any technical drawing, would take some time and use to become intuitive, but really interesting.

Once you get used to it, I could see where it would be very practical, especially for checking continuity.

[C1Stolli]

Hello there -
I am new here and glad to found you!

From Germany I am doing electrical repairs for some Porsche specialized shops. Actually it is a repair of wiring harness /6 71 USA-Model.

Holding an original black and white schematic in my hand (lent from the shop who needs my help) the explanation for the electrical consumers I am missing.

Sorry - my English will appear to be worse but if anybody understands my intention, then I hope to get a scan of that second page with those consumers.

Best Regards
Mario

BTW: I love every Porsche - if it is old enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[C1Stolli]

For those of you who may be interested to what I got from the shop:

[SirAndy]

Sorry - my English will appear to be worse but if anybody understands my intention, then I hope to get a scan of that second page with those consumers.

@C1Stolli
Mario, lass mich wissen ob du hilfe brauchst mit Übersetzungen.

Und danke für die Kopie von dem Schaltplan!
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[Maltese Falcon]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) willkommen Mario
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[C1Stolli]

Sorry - my English will appear to be worse but if anybody understands my intention, then I hope to get a scan of that second page with those consumers.

@C1Stolli
Mario, lass mich wissen ob du hilfe brauchst mit Übersetzungen.

Und danke für die Kopie von dem Schaltplan!
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PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)

Danke fürs Angebot - mit dem Lesen sollte es bei mir ausreichend klappen. Aber herzlichen Dank für das Angebot!!!

Was ich benötige ist halt die "zweite Seite" mit der Aufschlüsselung der Verbraucher...

Beste Grüsse aus 78582 Balgheim
Mario

[gerakroo]

After reviewing these posts, let me clear some things up.
Art Zapf is still around, that is me. I took down my website because sales did not justify the costs.

Regarding the SIX wire schematics
When I researched this subject in the early 1980s, I found two Six schematics: A European version and a US version with a diagnostic box. Neither one represented the cars we have in the US. It is why I decided to make them.
There are no others worldwide to my knowledge unless it is a copy of mine.

If you look to Kroon, his wire harnesses were built to my schematic - I sold one to him.

I have sold these world wide for you the 914-6 owners as I no longer have my six, sadly.
I made the Black and white first and it is made to fit fan folded in the factory manual.
The color was made before computers using graphic tape. It took years before I could get it color copied and it a digital database.
I have plenty of B&W, sadly down to one each of the gloss and encapsulated ones. There are expensive to print, plus my time place orders, pick them up and ship. With sales down to one or two a year, it may not be worth my time and money to print enough in volume to give you better prices. The way of the world.

I am looking for the right person or entity to pass this database to for it be available in the future for the SIX community, but a price - I think I earned it.
I can be reached by email: arthurzapf@gmail.com

After reading this post and all the comments, I would like to respond to this. We sell 914-6 looms for many years. We indeed bought one of your (beautiful) diagrams Art but its not fair to simply assume that we "copied" yours. We were already producing and selling complete 914-6 sets before we bought one of your diagrams. We measured every single wire and every single connection one by one. That was certainly not easy and took a lot, a lot of time. Presenting the drawing as the harness is laid out in front of you is also not new, i already did this from the very first (early 912) drawing when i started our business from behind our kitchen table at home. The drawing for a Europe 914-6 version is also quite different to US and we have both versions available for each year. We deliver our diagrams only together with a new harness. Because we have been producing so many wiring looms for so long, we know all the differences. A 70's harness is different from a 71, and a 72 is quite different too. As with other models, these differences are often not shown on factory drawings. You only learn these differences by working with them every day. So I find it strange if someone offers a "complete 914-6 wiring harness" without stating what year it is and whether it is a US or ROW version. Over the years we have documented all these differences in drawings and wiring lists. We also never had the intention of selling any electrical schematics. The aim was only to simplify the connection of the wiring harness supplied by us.
In short, if you buy a 1971 914-6 US wiring harness set from us, you will receive a 1971 914-6 US set, complete with the correct engine wiring harness, wiper harness, dash harness and of course we also supply the correct drawing. Our family business originated from a pure passion for classic Porsches. We want to deliver the best and original product for a reasonable price. We have been doing this with great success for years and we will certainly continue to do so. Our technical support department is always available (free of charge) to help other Porsche enthusiasts. So even if someone has a technical question, feel free to send us an email. (info@kroonwireharnesses.com) We always try to answer these within 24 hours.

[ZIPSIXR]

Art Zapf here - the schematics are still available, only I just sold the rights to reproduce and sell them to the six community. Time to pass the torch.
If you need a 914-6 color schematic, contact Peter Fazekas of StuttCar Service in Pasadena, CA
626-321-2736

[zoomCat]

The cost of a schematic is $40-$60. I can't remember the exact number.

Everything is labelled with colouring and tags. Its laid out as if the harness is flat in front of you. By far the easiest diagrams I have ever had to read.

The diagram isn’t listed on the website. Would it be available for purchase by phone? If so, what’s the price?

[ClayPerrine]

1- The B&W-only one on Pelican, which is kind of crappy but seems to be the factory diagram

That is not a factory diagram. It came from an aftermarket repair manual. I have a copy of that manual on the shelf here at the house. My copy of the wiring diagram is not scribbled upon like the one on Pelican, and it is much clearer. And yes, I offered a copy of it to Pelican years ago. They didn't take me up on it.


I can't check my electronic copies, as my file server is offline due to a failed power supply, and Amazon hasn't delivered the replacement yet.

Clay

[mepstein]

The cost of a schematic is $40-$60. I can't remember the exact number.

Everything is labelled with colouring and tags. Its laid out as if the harness is flat in front of you. By far the easiest diagrams I have ever had to read.

The diagram isn’t listed on the website. Would it be available for purchase by phone? If so, what’s the price?

Call RD. Ask for Pete. He’s always been good to the 914 crowd.

[930cabman]

How different from the /4 can it be?

[mepstein]

How different from the /4 can it be?

Not much from an early 4. Mostly ignition switch and windshield washer.
And of course the engine harness is completely different.

[ClayPerrine]

How different from the /4 can it be?

Not much from an early 4. Mostly ignition switch and windshield washer.
And of course the engine harness is completely different.

The connection to the relay board is different, there is no wiring for the wiper motor other than a power wire, there is wiring for an electric washer pump, the turn signal wiring is different because the six uses a 911 turn signal switch, the headlight wiring is different because the six does not use a high beam relay, and as previously mentioned, the ignition switch is completely different.


There is enough stuff different to make it require a completely different wiring diagram.

[ClayPerrine]

For everyone - Here is the same diagram as Pelican has, but not all scribbled up. I have also included the wiring diagram legend and the cover of the manual it came from.









If anyone needs them, I have extremely high resolution scans (the first page is 32mb) of these diagrams. Contact me if you want them.

Clay