Reproducing the elusive rear fog light bracket., ORDER NOW! First post updated as orders come in. Options

[ConeDodger]

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[Larmo63]

Can we get an up close look at how the light attaches to the bracket with the bracket provided in the fog light kit from the supplier?

I looked at installing it, there didn't seem to be a way to use their bracket and make it look right.

[raynekat]

The angle of the dangle doesn't look right on the bracket I just received.
The back panel these guys mount on is basically straight up and down...unless I'm not looking at it right.

When I attach my rear fog light to the bracket, and hold it up against the back panel, my light looks drastically down.
I would think it would want to look straight back.
Anyone else having a similar issue?
Maybe the mounting post on my light is at a different angle?
It's a standard Porsche rear fog light, but with a black housing.

[TJB/914]

The angle of the dangle doesn't look right on the bracket I just received.
The back panel these guys mount on is basically straight up and down...unless I'm not looking at it right.

When I attach my rear fog light to the bracket, and hold it up against the back panel, my light looks drastically down.
I would think it would want to look straight back.
Anyone else having a similar issue?
Maybe the mounting post on my light is at a different angle?
It's a standard Porsche rear fog light, but with a black housing.

Hope this helps.
Tom

[ConeDodger]

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[Larmo63]

My outer plate doesn't look like that one, Tom. The light is from the British source, not the correct fit at all.

[raynekat]

My outer plate doesn't look like that one, Tom. The light is from the British source, not the correct fit at all.

Looks just like mine that I received.....angled downward too much.
Not sure the rear fog light will do much good at such a steep angle.
Might have been a miscue in the manufacturing process?

Calling McMark and Conedodger.... help.

[ConeDodger]

My outer plate doesn't look like that one, Tom. The light is from the British source, not the correct fit at all.

Looks just like mine that I received.....angled downward too much.
Not sure the rear fog light will do much good at such a steep angle.
Might have been a miscue in the manufacturing process?

Calling McMark and Conedodger.... help.

Is the back of that light black or chrome? Show the mount without the light cuddles up to it...

[Larmo63]

Yes, it's chrome. I'll bring it up to Mammoth, we can fiddle with it.

[02loftsmoor]

is there a diagram of how the factory installs the bracket as far as placement and drillings. measurements?

[raynekat]

Is the back of that light black or chrome? Show the mount without the light cuddles up to it...

My housing is black.....does that matter?

[ConeDodger]

Probably doesn't make a difference but...

Tom provided me with the example we used to do the Solidworks drawings and ultimately the manufacturing. Tom believed this was an original NLA mount. I believed Tom, Mark believed me. What you got is a copy of that.

Here are a list of possible problems:

Tom's example isn't actually a 914 rear fog light mount. In which case, it would probably work well for what it is, but not for a 914.

The guy who made the Solidworks drawing messed up the angle. I doubt this, but don't rule it out entirely - he's an MIT trained Mechanical engineer. His roommate invented the Roomba vacuum.

The possibility the chrome vs black lights are different. We need to get the chrome and black lights together for a party at WCR to see.

Obviously, Tom has a mount that works on his car. If we find that the first possibility is true, we start over with the actual exterior mount from Tom's car. If the drawing was bad, we tease Eric Purcell mercilously until he turns in his mechanical engineering card. If it's a difference in the lights, you'll have to get chrome. In any outcome, we'll get this straightened out.

[Dion]

Lawrence is correct. I have a chrome housing, just did a trial fit. Angle is incorrect. It's too steep. Thus Fog light is aimed down too much.
Keep us posted Rob. Thanks.

[Larmo63]

The mount shown in the TJB post above of the yellow 914 is completely different than the one we received.

I have a pile of "just doesn't work" stuff for my 914. I'm not butthurt, but the mount is on it's way to that pile.

[McMark]

The mount shown in the TJB post above of the yellow 914 is completely different than the one we received.

TJB's bracket is home made. It uses M8 bolts instead of M6, and if you look at the drawing the PET it's not tall enough.

Another thought... maybe it's not supposed to point straight back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Maybe it's supposed to point at the gound. The 914 location is really high for a rear fog light. And none of the brackets that are actually on cars (if you search old posts) are using a factory bracket. By which I mean there all obviously home made. Which is fine, but those homemade installations do not make this part 'wrong'. Maybe all the homemade ones are wrong...

But regardless, it looks like the only happy medium is for me to order a fog light, redraw the bracket myself with parts in hand and send out replacements for those who want 'straight facing' rear fog lights.

In the mean time, has anyone seen a vintage picture of a 914 rear fog? Were they in any advertisements or promotional materials?

[McMark]

Upon further reflection, nah, I'm not drawing these up again. I think I've learned my lesson about making parts.

If anyone wants a refund, just send the parts back.

[914Sixer]

I may be mistaken but I am almost certain I sold Tom original Porsche factory outside mount. I did not have an inside mount at the time. I think he sourced the inside elsewhere.

[McMark]

This is the picture I'm referencing. M8 bolts, not tall enough -- assuming the PET drawing is correct. Oh and it's either bare, or silver zinc. All OEM parts should be cad plated (yellow). The rounding on the corners strikes me a non-original as well. A factory part usually doesn't have corners that round because it's harder to make the part for no benefit. Plus the factory would have die stamped these, the rounding on these corners isn't stamped, it's filed/sanded.

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This is the one Rob had the drawings made from. It's yellow cad, it's got M6 mounting holes, it's got 'hard' corners from stamping. But I don't like that the holes aren't completely round, or that there are sanding scratches.
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[ConeDodger]

Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work?

[Dion]

Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work?

No worries McMark & Rob. I'll make it work. I was thinking just that Rob.
Just a "tip up". Thanks for the link. I was gonna put a little bead of weld on
and rest the washer upon it. Didn't realize these washers existed.
Thanks .