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> Reproducing the elusive rear fog light bracket., ORDER NOW! First post updated as orders come in.
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post May 29 2017, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Dion @ May 29 2017, 02:09 PM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 29 2017, 05:36 AM) *

Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work?


No worries McMark & Rob. I'll make it work. I was thinking just that Rob.
Just a "tip up". Thanks for the link. I was gonna put a little bead of weld on
and rest the washer upon it. Didn't realize these washers existed.
Thanks .


If the washer works, it would probably need to be put into a drill press to redirect the hole, but might work. Mark hasn't sent me mine (or maybe ots at home and I haven't seen it yet), but this is what I'm going to try. If it works perfectly, I'll send a package to Mark to include in everyone's order.
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post May 29 2017, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ May 29 2017, 09:15 AM) *

This is the picture I'm referencing. M8 bolts, not tall enough -- assuming the PET drawing is correct. Oh and it's either bare, or silver zinc. All OEM parts should be cad plated (yellow). The rounding on the corners strikes me a non-original as well. A factory part usually doesn't have corners that round because it's harder to make the part for no benefit. Plus the factory would have die stamped these, the rounding on these corners isn't stamped, it's filed/sanded.

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This is the one Rob had the drawings made from. It's yellow cad, it's got M6 mounting holes, it's got 'hard' corners from stamping. But I don't like that the holes aren't completely round, or that there are sanding scratches.
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Guys,
The pic of my outer bracket in the photo is stainless steel and sourced from someone I can't remember who?? The outer bracket Rob has was included in an orig. Porsche Hella Fog Light pkg. that Rob got. I agree with Mark, don't do this stuff anymore:headbang:
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post May 29 2017, 03:29 PM
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one bracket bolts directly to the fog light housing,, the other requires the swivel light...my guess
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post May 29 2017, 03:38 PM
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Guys,

The inside bracket is 100% correct since I purchased some direct from the Porsche dealer and they came from Porsche-Germany with part #'s. It was a no brainer installation since they fit on the ledge inside the trunk. The holes were drilled using the inner bracket holes.

I am showing some photo's I used to locate the fog light hole location using the inner bracket (see photos of inside and outside for location). The inner bracket is Porsche correct from the factory.

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post May 30 2017, 06:27 AM
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so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no
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post May 30 2017, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(02loftsmoor @ May 30 2017, 08:27 AM) *

so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no

What do you mean by work? They work, the light just points down a bit. The conversation is essentially realizing that nobody know what the rear fog light is supposed to look like. Most people who have mounted them before this group guy, using alternative mounting methods and brackets, have mounted them straight up and down (straight back).

Nobody has a confirmed stock outer bracket. The mounting bracket that Rob (ConeDodger) had duplicated is the most likely candidate of any I've seen. And it's likely that it is original. But it makes the rear fog point down at an angle.

So it's not really about works or doesn't work -- it's about straight back or angled down.
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post May 30 2017, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ May 30 2017, 07:37 AM) *

QUOTE(02loftsmoor @ May 30 2017, 08:27 AM) *

so in a nut shell these brackets are not going to work unless you cobble something up? yes or no

What do you mean by work? They work, the light just points down a bit. The conversation is essentially realizing that nobody know what the rear fog light is supposed to look like. Most people who have mounted them before this group guy, using alternative mounting methods and brackets, have mounted them straight up and down (straight back).

Nobody has a confirmed stock outer bracket. The mounting bracket that Rob (ConeDodger) had duplicated is the most likely candidate of any I've seen. And it's likely that it is original. But it makes the rear fog point down at an angle.

So it's not really about works or doesn't work -- it's about straight back or angled down.


if it's pointing down it not going to work. I bought a useless part. unless I want cobble something up, the whole idea is a direct fit, maybe a little tweaking.

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post May 30 2017, 09:48 AM
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As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done.
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I need someone post a picture with the lens. Without a picture, I don't know whether to pursue trying to fix it, or just issue refunds to everyone. I need someone to help me out.
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post May 30 2017, 10:49 AM
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Mark,
Mine came, along with all the WCR stuff you sent. I'll get a picture when I get back home. Did you see the wedge washer solution?
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Better yet, I'll send you a lens!
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 30 2017, 12:49 PM) *

Mark,
Mine came, along with all the WCR stuff you sent. I'll get a picture when I get back home. Did you see the wedge washer solution?

I saw the wedge washer. I don't have a lens/light, so I can't test anything. So I'm completely blind here. All I know is what people have said. It would be REALLY nice to see WTF people are talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 30 2017, 12:53 PM) *

Better yet, I'll send you a lens!

That's one way, except I'm all out of effort. I will either refund money or hopefully someone can find a way to make it work so all my effort so far isn't completely wasted. No more parts manufacturing for me.
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post May 30 2017, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ May 30 2017, 10:48 AM) *

As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done.



Missed that sorry.
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QUOTE(McMark @ May 30 2017, 10:48 AM) *

As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done.



don't worry about it. I didn't give that much for a raw bracket.. but instead of shimming under the light could a shim under the bracket and the body work, just tossing that out there
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QUOTE(Dion @ May 29 2017, 12:09 PM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 29 2017, 05:36 AM) *

Perhaps McMaster Carr sells a wedge washer that would work?


No worries McMark & Rob. I'll make it work. I was thinking just that Rob.
Just a "tip up". Thanks for the link. I was gonna put a little bead of weld on
and rest the washer upon it. Didn't realize these washers existed.
Thanks .


If you search Metric Leveling Washers on McMaster there is another option, assuming you need <5 degrees of rotation.
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In my original picture, the fog light (sourced from England) is bolted to the bracket and facing down at that shown angle.

It is the light/Hella kit mentioned in the thread above, chrome back.
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post May 30 2017, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(02loftsmoor @ May 30 2017, 07:15 PM) *

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As I said, send it back and get your money back. Done.



don't worry about it. I didn't give that much for a raw bracket.. but instead of shimming under the light could a shim under the bracket and the body work, just tossing that out there


It could, but I'd guess it would be more obvious than a shim under the light...
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ May 31 2017, 02:11 AM) *

In my original picture, the fog light (sourced from England) is bolted to the bracket and facing down at that shown angle.

It is the light/Hella kit mentioned in the thread above, chrome back.


Lawrence, bring yours to Mammoth and let's brainstorm a bit...
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Damn - And I already purchased the wiring harness....
Oh Well....
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