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> WCC: Now that you've been to the Track?, What are going to change about your car?
Mike D.
post Apr 26 2005, 04:28 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too!
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Engine did great, outside of the throttle linkage coming apart and having to be towed off the track, Yes, that was me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
I found that my car had tremedous amount of understeer. I was really looking forward to throttle steering and drifting the car but not with the understeer conditions I was having. Oh, I was throttle stearing, but I'd let up on the throttle to upset the balance then get back on it just get the damn thing to turn. I only got into an oversteer slide once all day.

Guess I'll be going back to the drawing board on the suspension.

Still had a great day, thanks to everyone! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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post Apr 26 2005, 04:33 PM
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can I change the fact that it doesn't run?
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:36 PM
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I was very happy with mine. It turned in great with just a little oversteer but we could power slide it. The car was much better than I was as I was a little bit rusty (30 years) but got faster as the day went on. I have less than 500 miles total in a 914 so it was a steep learning curve. Had a great time and want to thank Howard and all his support for a great 3 days.

PS I want to thank Joe o'brien for all his help as he was my instructor. he was a very brave man

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post Apr 26 2005, 04:37 PM
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One big thing that me and chris (julian) found was the need for an oil cooler.

Outside of that...

Cv's

tube strengthening so that I can run

biger flares so that I can run

wide stickies

Either stronger springs or a swaybar in the rear so that I can run

bigger/ aftermarket swaybar up front

And finish off with a little more brake! ( Although mine were doing really good yesterday....)

Anyone else??
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post Apr 26 2005, 04:56 PM
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Geez, where do I start? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Front 23mm bar that I was saving for Dad's Car.

2.0 with cam & carbs that I was saving for Dad's Car.

914/6 front & rear conversion with SC calipers & 6x15 Fuchs that I was saving for Dad's Car.

Syncro for 2nd gear.

Other than those things, the car was great. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Actually, except for an amazing lack of power, the car was ok. The front & rear broke loose at almost the exact same time, the tires (Dunlop A 2's) stuck very well (our instructor was impressed at how well), and the braking was never an issue. How could it be an issue going that slow? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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post Apr 26 2005, 05:01 PM
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0. Replace 2nd gear synchro (and probably slider and teeth) and 1st gear synchro for good measure
0. Adjust the clutch to engage lower
0. Fix the oil leak (pushrod tube seals and valve cover gaskets)
1. New tires
2. Rear Sway bar
3. Perhaps an adjustable front sway bar to replace my stock one.

4. I've decided that on my project car I will definitely put fender flares on and I'm strongly considering putting Boxster brakes on the front to replace the stock SC calipers. I will also run 140 lbs or heavier springs on the back and a rear sway bar too. Its getting a WRX motor and aafter looking at Scott's Porscharu conversion I got some good ideas on how to do the motor mount, etc. I was lucky enough to get a ride in that car. Sounds like a stock 2.0 but accelerates like a mother-#(@&@#) !

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post Apr 26 2005, 05:23 PM
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I think the only thing I will change on my car is the brakes. I think I need to go with bigger fronts, other than that, my car handled just fine. As for power, it is what it is, a stock 2 liter with D-Jet. Reliable, good gas mileage and so on. The motor is fairly new so I think as long as it is running so good, I will just leave it. After all, it is just an A/X car/driver. Besides, I can run in stock class with it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Tony, I thought your tires had pretty good grip for street tires. I may get a set of those for my other wheels for the street. But you need some heavier springs and maybe a rear bar. I may have some springs for you. I just need to decide which to run on mine, the 140's or the 165's. I will know once I go to the next Riverside A/X.
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post Apr 26 2005, 05:28 PM
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Me, nuttin'

Fix a clunk in the rear of the car? learn how to push them pedals and turn that round thingy that sits right in front of me. So far the only thing I know that needs improving is me.
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post Apr 26 2005, 05:38 PM
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post Apr 26 2005, 05:40 PM
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post Apr 26 2005, 05:43 PM
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Tony, I thought your tires had pretty good grip for street tires. I may get a set of those for my other wheels for the street. But you need some heavier springs and maybe a rear bar. I may have some springs for you. I just need to decide which to run on mine, the 140's or the 165's. I will know once I go to the next Riverside A/X.


I know the springs I have in the back are stiffer than stock, but I don't know for certain what they are. Someone once told me they felt like 140 lb springs, but who knows. The tires are Dunlop SP Sport tires and I don't know if they are still sold. I bought them in the summer of 2001, they had maybe two and a half years of use before I chopped up my first 914, then they sat until June of last year when I put them on this car. I noticed that after a couple years they did begin to feel noticeably harder. I remember when they were new they felt pretty good.

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post Apr 26 2005, 05:43 PM
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post Apr 27 2005, 02:39 PM
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Only thing I want to change is heavier rear springs but other than that my car was pretty well glued to the track (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Slits even said so himself (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)
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post Apr 27 2005, 02:58 PM
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Ya'll think I really need a swaybar?


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post Apr 27 2005, 03:00 PM
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No, you need more rear spring.
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:01 PM
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (sean_v8_914 @ Apr 27 2005, 12:58 PM)
Ya'll think I really need a swaybar?

you were one of the few that had a perfect line through there ...

sway bars would help making you faster.
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:16 PM
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suspension wise, nothing, other than match the rear control arm bushings with the elephants i put on the front. when we left i didn't bother to turn the konis down from the 1/2 turn i put on them for the track. car felt much more stable at freeway cruising. so, around town full soft, and make the adjustment as driving dictates. the truck lane on 101 from gilmore was killing me. you guys with the autocross setups must have been getting hammered.

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post Apr 27 2005, 03:35 PM
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The Streets is a tough little track for most cars. All those slow corners make even a well set up car struggle. I does bring out the worst in a car, so I suppose that's a good thing to see such dramatic handling behavior. You'll quickly know when you're going in the right direction or not (set up wise, that is (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) ). Were you guys running the abbreviated short course? Any lap times?

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post Apr 27 2005, 03:38 PM
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tranny with a good center bearing... LSD... shorter 4th and 5th,

oh wait! I was already gonna do all that (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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