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> Double or Single Adjustable Konis???, Worth the $70 difference in price??
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post Apr 27 2005, 02:44 PM
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Or more importantly, will I, an average driver know the difference in tuning ability of the double adjustable shock??

8610 series is single=rebound only

8611 series is double=rebound and compression
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post Apr 27 2005, 02:45 PM
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are the double adj. ones the ones with the extra knob at the bottom?
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 27 2005, 01:45 PM)
are the double adj. ones the ones with the extra knob at the bottom?

yep.......

I was looking at Advance-Design shocks as well, but they are basicly $400 each for the front

Advance Design Aluminum, double adjustable

They look too pretty to install in the strut housing

(IMG:http://www.advance-design.com/adstrut1.jpg)
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 27 2005, 12:44 PM)
Or more importantly, will I, an average driver know the difference in tuning ability of the double adjustable shock??

8610 series is single=rebound only

8611 series is double=rebound and compression

Mike,

Out of curiosity, do you know for sure that the adjustment of the 8610 affects rebound only? I was told the adjustment on Tokico Illuminas, which are single adjustable, affects both the rebound and compression.


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post Apr 27 2005, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (phantom914 @ Apr 27 2005, 02:09 PM)
QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 27 2005, 12:44 PM)
Or more importantly, will I, an average driver know the difference in tuning ability of the double adjustable shock??

8610 series is single=rebound only

8611 series is double=rebound and compression

Mike,

Out of curiosity, do you know for sure that the adjustment of the 8610 affects rebound only? I was told the adjustment on Tokico Illuminas, which are single adjustable, affects both the rebound and compression.


Andrew

Andrew,

According to the spec sheets, the Koni single adjustment only affects rebound.

I have found a few other companies (AFCO, QA1) that are single adjustment shocks, yet turning the one knob will affect both rebound and compression.
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post Apr 27 2005, 03:22 PM
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I snagged this off the Koni site to give some insight on adjusting rebound/compression



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post Apr 27 2005, 04:19 PM
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I thought the Advance shocks were a product from Ground Control (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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post Apr 27 2005, 04:24 PM
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Last time I checked..

Mueller.. are you sure they sell the double for our strut housings ? and are you *sure* they sell them for the rear of our cars ?

I say stick with the singles.. last thing you told me was: Driver.


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post Apr 27 2005, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Jeroen @ Apr 27 2005, 03:19 PM)
I thought the Advance shocks were a product from Ground Control (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

It appears that Advanced Design is sorta seperate from Ground Control, when I called them this morning I asked if they are one and the same, the guy on the phone said they work on AD shocks??? whatever than means???

they might be owned by the same person ...they both need to update their websites...the person that answers the e-mail is rude.... it's not my fault they list the Porsche shocks @ $199 on the price sheet when in fact it's a coil over setup instead at that price.....
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post Apr 27 2005, 04:29 PM
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the guy on the phone said they work on AD shocks???


He didnt lie... they rebuild AD shocks.

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post Apr 27 2005, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Apr 27 2005, 03:24 PM)
Last time I checked..

Mueller.. are you sure they sell the double for our strut housings ? and are you *sure* they sell them for the rear of our cars ?

I say stick with the singles.. last thing you told me was: Driver.


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yep....they said they can furnish them for the car..didn't ask about the rear, but I see no reason why not......

since I need new shocks as it is, I figure a few hundred bucks spent on "better" shocks wouldn't be that big of deal...


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post Apr 27 2005, 04:42 PM
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I'm betting "lunch" they dont have the rears. The reason they have the front: RX7's run a strut *similar* to ours...which means they have a double for us. Good luck and let me know.

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post Apr 27 2005, 06:25 PM
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Found a picture of the Advance Design front setup....raised spindle as an option.....seems like a rear shock would be a no-brainer for these guys



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post Apr 27 2005, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 27 2005, 04:01 PM)
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 27 2005, 01:45 PM)
are the double adj. ones the ones with the extra knob at the bottom?

yep.......

I was looking at Advance-Design shocks as well, but they are basicly $400 each for the front

Advance Design Aluminum, double adjustable

They look too pretty to install in the strut housing

(IMG:http://www.advance-design.com/adstrut1.jpg)

You're kidding, right? 400 dollars EACH?? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

Call HPH and pick up a pair of single adjustables for ~350. I did that today.

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post Apr 27 2005, 07:29 PM
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MikeM,

That is the front strut I have for BillP's car. The rears are monoball mount to the bottom..

Just stick with the rebound Koni's.

You are not building a race car.


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post Apr 27 2005, 07:45 PM
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Brad,

I talked to Rich B today. Please give him a call.

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post Apr 27 2005, 08:19 PM
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Hey Mike! Buy a set and take 'em apart. Oh, and, get pics. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Apr 27 2005, 08:21 PM
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Ha ha... I like Gints idea.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) I can see MM now.. covered in Koni oil.


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post Apr 27 2005, 08:53 PM
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Ground Control owns Advance Design. Advance Design is just a spin off that produces only those double adjustable shocks. They are $400 each, plus the strut housing. These shocks are full racing shocks and will not put up with a lot of street miles, I would not recomend them for you Mike.

I helped with the R&D of these shocks and continue to help improve them. I am also one of Ground Controls largest dealers/installers. If any of you have any questions just send me an email. Ground Control is going through a rough phase with employees right now and I can often get you an answer.

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post Apr 27 2005, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Apr 27 2005, 07:21 PM)
Ha ha... I like Gints idea.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) I can see MM now.. covered in Koni oil.


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thanks Tony...I'll be harrassing you sometime next week around lunch time....
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