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post Apr 29 2005, 01:28 PM
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I forgot to mention built in Data logger.
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post Apr 29 2005, 01:34 PM
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Steve,
I like the sound of your system. I e-mailed you my other questions, but here's some big ones...

Have you dyno-tested a car with this setup compared to stock injection? Compared to carburetors? Any pictures of it in use (we like eye candy)? Does it come with detailed instructions (I'm not an electrical engineer (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif))?

Sounds super-cool.
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post Apr 29 2005, 02:19 PM
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We need a "this thread is worthless without prices" smiley.. Cough up the prices, sent a message - thanks!
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post Apr 29 2005, 02:28 PM
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Email? RED FLAG!

Are you in Nigeria, by any chance?

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post Apr 29 2005, 02:31 PM
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The price must be too embarrasing to post in public? You know it's just a matter of time before everyone here finds out anyway.
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post Apr 29 2005, 02:41 PM
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Yes, we can force it out of him here, or someone can send an email, and sneak it in somewhere.

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post Apr 29 2005, 02:47 PM
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I emailed for price...

I'm sure it's more than I can afford, but I want to know!
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post Apr 29 2005, 02:48 PM
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I remember a figure like $1000 from a post weeks ago. Haven't been following too close because I am married to my webers unless SCCA changes the rulebook.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...59&hl=injection
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post May 3 2005, 07:51 AM
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Anyone got a price from this guy yet?
Lots of us called and sent emails last week, not a good sign!
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post May 3 2005, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (porschenut @ May 3 2005, 08:51 AM)
Anyone got a price from this guy yet?
Lots of us called and sent emails last week, not a good sign!

yea, what's up with that? I sent an email, nothing! is Steve starting the AA of the west? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post May 3 2005, 08:11 AM
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See what I told ya...
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post May 3 2005, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ May 3 2005, 05:52 AM)
QUOTE (porschenut @ May 3 2005, 08:51 AM)
Anyone got a price from this guy yet?
Lots of us called and sent emails last week, not a good sign!

yea, what's up with that? I sent an email, nothing! is Steve starting the AA of the west? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

you beat me too it...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post May 3 2005, 09:24 AM
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Eveyrone who has sent me a email will be getting an email shortly with the prices for the different packages.
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post May 3 2005, 09:33 AM
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If anyone gets the prices , please post them, the suspence is just toooooo much for me. If it is near $1000, then that may not be too bad, considering the prices of Weber 48's these days, and the fact that once tuned, it should stay in tune forever, right????
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post May 3 2005, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (dmenche914 @ May 3 2005, 10:33 AM)
If anyone gets the prices , please post them, the suspence is just toooooo much for me. If it is near $1000, then that may not be too bad, considering the prices of Weber 48's these days, and the fact that once tuned, it should stay in tune forever, right????

in theory...

another determining factor for me, is that I would need some sort of FI to begin with, it seems... it's not a conversion from carbs... so I would need to find another FI, even a stock one, which would had a few hundred to the cost... whereas megasquirt can convert carbs...

I wonder if one of the shitty "single-carb" setups can beconverted to FI using this though? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) I think I have one of those on the shelf
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post May 3 2005, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ May 3 2005, 07:37 AM)
QUOTE (dmenche914 @ May 3 2005, 10:33 AM)
If anyone gets the prices , please post them, the suspence is just toooooo much for me.  If it is near $1000, then that may not be too bad, considering the prices of Weber 48's these days, and the fact that once tuned, it should stay in tune forever, right????

in theory...

another determining factor for me, is that I would need some sort of FI to begin with, it seems... it's not a conversion from carbs... so I would need to find another FI, even a stock one, which would had a few hundred to the cost... whereas megasquirt can convert carbs...

I wonder if one of the shitty "single-carb" setups can beconverted to FI using this though? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) I think I have one of those on the shelf

Megasquirt can only "convert carbs" if you have all of the parts. By far the easiest way to put MS or any other aftermarket ECU in a 914 is to start with a D-Jet or L-Jet setup. These aren't all that expensive used, certainly not "a few hundred", considering you can buy a complete running 1.7 for under $500. You don't need the "brain" or the MPS, which are the expensive hard-to-source parts. All you need is are the runners, plenum, throttle body, injectors, fuel pump, and the pressure regulator. You'd still need to do all of the wiring and plumbing yourself. The big advantage here is the plenum and TB will already have a nipple for the MAP sensor (same as MPS), and will have temp sensors for intake air and head temp you can use with MS and the newer Perfect Power ECUs. The TPS won't work, but you don't really need one with MS.

If you're trying to convert a dual Weber'd car, you'll need to modify the manifolds to accept injectors, and you'll need to buy the injectors ($150-200 a set new), a fuel pump, a pressure regulator, and plumbing. The Webers can act as throttle bodies. However, this is actually an expensive way to do this, as you can sell the complete Weber setup for $400-500, and a buy used D-Jet setup for $50-150. It's possible to have a complete MS system working for the same money you'd get for selling the Webers.

The single progressive Weber setup would work, as long as you mount the injectors at the ports.
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post May 3 2005, 11:31 AM
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I am fairly new here but I will toss my .02 into the fray... I emailed Steve back on 4-23 about an engine, he emailed me back with info about a "big four" which was great.

Now when I emailed him back about prices and dyno numbers (you know actual hard data like you would get anywhere else in the real world from an engine builder but seems to be kinda scarce in this community) because I was very interested I never heard back from him.

Again just my .02 but I wouldn't hold my breath for a reply...
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post May 3 2005, 12:57 PM
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Just have a little patience fellows you will be getting the prices via email.
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post May 3 2005, 01:20 PM
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