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> Bumpers, Stainless steel, Group buy, Gauging interest, $1200/set plus shipping
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post Jan 20 2018, 04:26 PM
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I'll wait to hear from Mark. Its amazing how long it takes to develop a product. Especially when dealing with an overseas vendor.


It looks like George at AA kind of fuched Mark. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) He’s in the member vendor section with them and I think he uses the word “perfect” 6 times in his first post about them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) oh, and $700 higher priced than what Mark projected!
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post Jan 20 2018, 04:33 PM
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Maybe but they are 800 dollars or so more through them and I just can't justify that at this point for my car and many others feel the same..

If this does fall through it would interesting to see if RD would make them and send them for chroming..
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post Jan 20 2018, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 19 2018, 10:40 AM) *

I'll wait to hear from Mark. Its amazing how long it takes to develop a product. Especially when dealing with an overseas vendor.


It looks like George at AA kind of fuched Mark. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) He’s in the member vendor section with them and I think he uses the word “perfect” 6 times in his first post about them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) oh, and $700 higher priced than what Mark projected!

If Mark can't do it, I'll look somewhere else but not AA. I've been after Pete for a while to make a front bumper but...Maybe one day.
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jan 20 2018, 02:26 PM) *
It looks like George at AA kind of fuched Mark. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) He’s in the member vendor section with them and I think he uses the word “perfect” 6 times in his first post about them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) oh, and $700 higher priced than what Mark projected!

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) No dog in this, & not a potential customer for these ...yet
But explain to me Rob how George "fuched" Mark ? Other than producing a competitive product & marketing it as allowed buy Andy & admins.

To expand this topic further (apologize for the slight hijack) There seems to double standard regarding vendors here. I understand the sentiment and have suffered at the hands of AA like many, but if you wanna hear about gettig FUCHED buy a member vendor PM me & Ill tell you a story.

Its called capitalism. Like it or not sometimes its cutthroat. You can decide to play with the big dogs, or get off the porch.
My .02, vote with your $'s & let the chips fall. I hope both succeed. Options are better.

Carry on.
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:36 PM
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Mark started his effort exactly a year ago. Publicly, on this forum where George ghosts pretty much constantly. Mark was transparent about his source. George snuck n the back door and bought a large supply. Kind of an “i’ll Buy everything you can produce” approach. I could give you several examples. He has approached another vendor and said “how much for 1000 of these?” And then, once he knows the price point, “ok, I’ll take 10 to start with.” Then, he never buys another unit. He sends the 10 off to be reverse engineered by his supplier.

It has nothing to do with capitalism. It’s an integrity thing.
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:41 PM
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Mark started his effort exactly a year ago. Publicly, on this forum where George ghosts pretty much constantly. Mark was transparent about his source. George snuck n the back door and bought a large supply. Kind of an “i’ll Buy everything you can produce” approach. I could give you several examples. He has approached another vendor and said “how much for 1000 of these?” And then, once he knows the price point, “ok, I’ll take 10 to start with.” Then, he never buys another unit. He sends the 10 off to be reverse engineered by his supplier.

It has nothing to do with capitalism. It’s an integrity thing.
Thanks for the reply, and for making my point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 20 2018, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jan 20 2018, 03:36 PM) *

Mark started his effort exactly a year ago. Publicly, on this forum where George ghosts pretty much constantly. Mark was transparent about his source. George snuck n the back door and bought a large supply. Kind of an “i’ll Buy everything you can produce” approach. I could give you several examples. He has approached another vendor and said “how much for 1000 of these?” And then, once he knows the price point, “ok, I’ll take 10 to start with.” Then, he never buys another unit. He sends the 10 off to be reverse engineered by his supplier.

It has nothing to do with capitalism. It’s an integrity thing.

An integrity thing... how about Mark gives us our money back on first gen crappy rubber top seals and first gen crappy Rubber bumper tops? Like others I stock up on Parts as I get funds, but don’t get around to installing them until a year later, then it’s too late to return them. All I can say is buyer beware with aftermarket parts. Try them out immediately so you can return them. Mark has produced some nice stuff lately. Even though I got burned by the first gen Rubber front top seal, I bought the latest one and it fit quite well.
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post Jan 20 2018, 08:09 PM
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This group buy is organized by Mark Henry not Mark from 914rubber.
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post Jan 20 2018, 09:47 PM
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That is correct. As far as bumper tops go, we were the only ones making these. They were hand cast in silicone with catalized rubber. There was no other option at the time. The margins were not great as they were quite labor intensive. We roll the funds we did make and others into improving the process and product. We do not take funds out of the business and continue to take on big and small projects to help with restoration and preservation. If ever you feel your not getting a fair shake please let me know.
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post Dec 15 2019, 10:32 PM
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Mark directed me to this thread after I posted about stainless bumpers for another make of car, (Volvo). Now I'm wondering, how did this all end? Did people get their bumpers in the end? Were people happy with the quality of them?
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post Dec 16 2019, 03:16 AM
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I'd like to get a set for my Ghia (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Dec 16 2019, 05:30 AM
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Mark directed me to this thread after I posted about stainless bumpers for another make of car, (Volvo). Now I'm wondering, how did this all end? Did people get their bumpers in the end? Were people happy with the quality of them?



It never happened.. Everything fizzled out.. Some bought from auto Atlanta but the price was more. Some rechromed the bumpers..
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post Dec 16 2019, 09:32 AM
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Less than half the samples finish quality ok other half+ not so much, on the horses in the sun some were wave city. Fitting was way off with 10-12 hours custom fitting time. It wasn't worth doing, there was some sketchyness with them and Harrington...bottom line it wasn't worth fuching up my name.
Loss of $5K plus a good rear chrome bumper. At least I have a nice GT front bumper and some spares for my two cars.
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post Dec 16 2019, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 16 2019, 10:32 AM) *

Less than half the samples finish quality ok other half+ not so much, on the horses in the sun some were wave city. Fitting was way off with 10-12 hours custom fitting time. It wasn't worth doing, there was some sketchyness with them and Harrington...bottom line it wasn't worth fuching up my name.
Loss of $5K plus a good rear chrome bumper. At least I have a nice GT front bumper and some spares for my two cars.

Sorry you got burned on this but your effort is appreciated
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post Dec 17 2019, 05:02 AM
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I'd like to get a set for my Ghia (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

go over to the Samba and read about how bad the fit was on the Ghia bumpers. People were required to fabricate adapters for mounts they were so far off.,
Other VWs fit better. The big problem is that they say it is fixed but it was not and the next guy gets burned. I have not read that thread for some time so things may have changed.
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post Dec 17 2019, 07:58 AM
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I love the chrome front/rear bumpers, mine are black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wonder how much chrome bumpers would cost if I traded the black?
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post Dec 17 2019, 08:01 AM
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I love the chrome front/rear bumpers, mine are black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wonder how much chrome bumpers would cost if I traded the black?

Take your bumpers to a chrome shop. Probably $400-600 each and you know they will fit your car.
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:07 AM
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I agree, if you have original parts, rechrome them. The bumper shop in california does a great job for about 400 each
If you do not have bumpers, then we do have the polished stainless steel in stock


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I love the chrome front/rear bumpers, mine are black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wonder how much chrome bumpers would cost if I traded the black?

Take your bumpers to a chrome shop. Probably $400-600 each and you know they will fit your car.
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post Dec 18 2019, 08:52 PM
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Do you have contact information for this bumper shop in California?

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Dec 17 2019, 09:07 AM) *

I agree, if you have original parts, rechrome them. The bumper shop in california does a great job for about 400 each
If you do not have bumpers, then we do have the polished stainless steel in stock


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I love the chrome front/rear bumpers, mine are black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wonder how much chrome bumpers would cost if I traded the black?

Take your bumpers to a chrome shop. Probably $400-600 each and you know they will fit your car.
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sure contact me off line and I will give it to you


QUOTE(bobboinski @ Dec 18 2019, 07:52 PM) *

Do you have contact information for this bumper shop in California?

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Dec 17 2019, 09:07 AM) *

I agree, if you have original parts, rechrome them. The bumper shop in california does a great job for about 400 each
If you do not have bumpers, then we do have the polished stainless steel in stock


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I love the chrome front/rear bumpers, mine are black (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I wonder how much chrome bumpers would cost if I traded the black?

Take your bumpers to a chrome shop. Probably $400-600 each and you know they will fit your car.
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