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> Put deposit down on my new garage...., Change of plan..building two!
KELTY360
post Jan 28 2017, 03:20 PM
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Two 4-post lifts would really change storage capacity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yup, think of them as cheap square footage.
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post Jan 28 2017, 05:50 PM
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Let me preface that my shop space is right next to the house, so a bathroom, the once every few hours I use it, doesn't warrant the cost. I've got a faucet within hose length and can easily roll a car out for a bath. Though a sink has it's uses.

I've got 6 cars spread between the 20x28 shop, 2 car driveway, and a carport.

I think you underestimated the shelving and storage space. My 2 car garage is nearly full with 2 motorcycles, full size toolbox, shop equipment like table saw, band saw, bender, welder, press etc, a 3x8 work bench, a few engines/trans/wheels, yard and house tools, and in 20 years I've managed to accumulate 8 2x4 shelves of stuff too nice to toss or spares.

Plus you will likely add a rotisserie. And someday you will put a long term project on the lift and wish it was free for a quickie.

I like the open air space for sandblasting, though I think at some point shade would be appreciated. I think a pool shade cloth would be choice since it can be taken down pretty easy.
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post Jan 30 2017, 04:00 PM
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Latest thoughts...have to finalize plans this week. The only thing I HAVE to finalize is door and window placement.

Really starting to question if 30' is wide enough......

Any additional thoughts?

1. Bathroom is optional. Will put in plumbing lines just in case.

2. Extended connecting concrete. Good ideas about covering later. Could also be closed in and made into a "dirty" work shop...paint/welding/blasting/etc.

3. Bathroom and tool storage rooms are not drawn to scale...they are just place holders. I will build those later.

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post Jan 30 2017, 05:01 PM
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Looking good. I think you're wise to consider going wider than 30'. Do some research on turning radius' to access the four post lifts, especially the first one. You might even look at angle parking to make access easier. I'll bet you could mock up your dimensions in a parking lot to prove that you have adequate turn in.

Good idea on the separate compressor room. Pay careful attention to your lighting plan as you move forward.
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post Jan 31 2017, 09:50 AM
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I would reconsider the position of the side doors.
I have a 24x36 shed with 5 single doors.
I do not have to move cars to get any of them in or out.

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post Jan 31 2017, 11:40 AM
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pool lights in the floor under the lift they work super good for under the car lighting best of luck Mr (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 31 2017, 12:59 PM
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Marc, altering the structural design at this point might result in re-engineering the whole project. Not to include time and change order$.
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post Jan 31 2017, 01:46 PM
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Marc, altering the structural design at this point might result in re-engineering the whole project. Not to include time and change order$.


I'm sure you're right, but the object of the exercise is to get a building(s) that you're happy to live with for a large number of years. If a design ends up as a constant frustration because it's not very functional, is that $$ well saved?
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post Jan 31 2017, 02:15 PM
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Well, I did go back to see about increasing the size of the buildings. However, they have already started cutting steel.

So, I think the latest layout will work.

Using the suggestion of angling the lifts, I think this gives me plenty of room for working (the first shop is the workshop) and plenty of room for storage.

I can enclose the space in between the two shops later on for a "dirt work area" as needed. Worst case I can cover it.

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post Jan 31 2017, 02:27 PM
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A large easy-up would be cheap and functional for the slab joining the 2 structures when you need cover. You'll have plenty of storage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 1 2017, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jan 31 2017, 12:15 PM) *

Well, I did go back to see about increasing the size of the buildings. However, they have already started cutting steel.

So, I think the latest layout will work.

Using the suggestion of angling the lifts, I think this gives me plenty of room for working (the first shop is the workshop) and plenty of room for storage.

I can enclose the space in between the two shops later on for a "dirt work area" as needed. Worst case I can cover it.

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I think you'll like that shop arrangement. You've given yourself a lot of open space. Be sure to give yourself plenty of room to circulate around the two post. An additional benefit is that you'll be able to use the aisle way for quick projects that don't require the lift.

Enjoy!
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post Jun 26 2017, 08:57 PM
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Taken a while...but, slab was poured today!!!!

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post Jun 26 2017, 09:19 PM
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Congrats. I love a good "build thread".
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post Jun 26 2017, 09:26 PM
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Wow, bigger than all levels of my house and garage combined.
Stupid small lots close to the city (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 27 2017, 07:38 AM
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that's great to get started!! awesome! what part of NC are you building? is it close to Charlotte?
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post Jun 27 2017, 08:25 AM
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Wow- How cool. I would love to have that kind of garage space. But alas, no farm for me. Wonderful space you have designed.
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post Jun 27 2017, 09:09 AM
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Big piece of concrete. When the iron erectors get started the process should move quickly. How long do you have to wait? 30 days for cure time?
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post Jun 27 2017, 10:04 PM
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Big piece of concrete. When the iron erectors get started the process should move quickly. How long do you have to wait? 30 days for cure time?


At least two weeks pending concrete cure progress....
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that's great to get started!! awesome! what part of NC are you building? is it close to Charlotte?


About 1 hour East of Charlotte
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sounds like a nice central location for a 914 get together, picnic or cookout!
I think you will have to have a open house once complete!
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