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Should I rip up my tar boards., What's the best way? |
Teen Hulk |
Feb 26 2017, 10:47 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 9-April 16 From: Port Hope, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 19,880 Region Association: Canada |
My floors look good, do I have to rip up the tar boards and what is the best way?
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PanelBilly |
Feb 26 2017, 10:49 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,798 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yes
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Jett |
Feb 26 2017, 10:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Seattle Member No.: 17,686 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I used a scraper and heat gun.
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Front yard mechanic |
Feb 26 2017, 10:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,154 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None |
Yes clean it up ! It looks as though it has been repaired at the firewall the metal at the fire wall doesn't have at seam at the bottom. Looks like an angle welded on. Don't go too deep or you'll be on the rotisserie (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif)
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johnhora |
Feb 26 2017, 02:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
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mepstein |
Feb 26 2017, 02:30 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, tar sheets don't rust but the metal underneath sure does. Electric mult tool with a scraper blade.
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IronHillRestorations |
Feb 26 2017, 03:14 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I've used wood chisels in the past, but that was before I got a multi-tool. Fortunately I haven't had to do this since I got the tool.
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cn2800 |
Feb 26 2017, 03:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 11-August 14 From: Amarillo, Texas Member No.: 17,766 Region Association: None |
If you've got it up on stands, I found it easiest to have the heat gun on its lowest setting, and position it nozzle up on the shop/garage floor beneath the area you're cleaning. That way, you heat the metal and the layer of tar just adjacent. Using the heat gun from the passenger compartment works, but you have to heat the entire layer of tar to the 'gooey point', which I found was a bigger mess.
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JRust |
Feb 26 2017, 03:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,305 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Use one of the cheap HB angle sanders with the scraper attachment. The vibration makes it come up much easier. I would try it cold before heat. I think I got much bigger pieces coming off when it was really cold.
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pete000 |
Feb 26 2017, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Chipped all mine out of my Six. Took a while but its all out.
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iankarr |
Feb 26 2017, 07:29 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
What do you guys think about removing tar on highly original cars?
I don't meant to hijack the thread, but I pulled a piece of tar in a spot likely to breed rust and it was clean. Would you sacrifice originality to prevent future rust? |
Rand |
Feb 26 2017, 07:34 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Harbor Frieght's $39 tool with a blade attachment (as was mentioned).
It makes quick work of it. Jamie mentioned it working well when cold. Temperature definitely plays a factor. Last one I did it was a Reno summer, and I found that a little heat from a heat gun released the adhesive (which runs in strings, not like a full coverage, so follow track of that as you go) and it peeled off in big chunks super fast. Surprisingly fast. Even just a wide scraper will work well with a heat gun or careful targeted use with a torch. Then a wire wheel to clean up the remains. Hope you find good metal under there. Pay special attention to what you find at the base of the firewall in the passenger seat corner. It gets crunchy there on most 914s. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.harborfreight.com-3573-1488159267.1.jpg) |
KELTY360 |
Feb 26 2017, 08:01 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
What do you guys think about removing tar on highly original cars? I don't meant to hijack the thread, but I pulled a piece of tar in a spot likely to breed rust and it was clean. Would you sacrifice originality to prevent future rust? What does your hell hole and longs look like? Is the firewall insulation pad in the engine bay intact? Does the rear window show any signs of being resealed? Is it still tight? I'd inspect all potential areas of rust inside and out before making the decision to tear up the tar. Use your best judgement at that point. |
Mark Henry |
Feb 26 2017, 08:13 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Teen Hulk is my 15 year old. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
He's going to start a resto thread soon, he's stripped the car right out and we're building a rotisserie. He got his 914 last summer. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=282052 |
iankarr |
Feb 26 2017, 08:34 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
What do you guys think about removing tar on highly original cars? I don't meant to hijack the thread, but I pulled a piece of tar in a spot likely to breed rust and it was clean. Would you sacrifice originality to prevent future rust? What does your hell hole and longs look like? Is the firewall insulation pad in the engine bay intact? Does the rear window show any signs of being resealed? Is it still tight? I'd inspect all potential areas of rust inside and out before making the decision to tear up the tar. Use your best judgement at that point. Hell hole and longs are great. Firewall insulation pad is intact. No signs of rust on either side of the firewall. Even with a scope I snaked behind the pad. My guess is that, if there's rust under the tar, it's probably minimal. For now, I'm erring on the keep it original side, but I'm open to other opinions... Thanks! |
Rand |
Feb 26 2017, 08:37 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Hey Mark: What, he wanted more opinions? LOL. The older he gets, the more he will trust you.
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Mark Henry |
Feb 27 2017, 10:59 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Hey Mark: What, he wanted more opinions? LOL. The older he gets, the more he will trust you. Not really trust, his floors look real good, he likely could have gotten away with just removing the tar boards in a couple spots. He has most of one side done and they look good so far. We were both wondering if it was real necessary, he suggested asking here and I told him to go for it. He's doing most of the work himself with my guidance. Actually with this resto he'll have one up on me...I've never restored a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
colingreene |
Feb 27 2017, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 729 Joined: 17-October 13 From: Southern California Member No.: 16,526 Region Association: Southern California |
Dry ice also works well
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PlantMan |
Feb 27 2017, 01:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-May 14 From: Mission Viejo Member No.: 17,352 Region Association: Southern California |
Dry ice also works well I have heard this too. My son and I are going to give it a try. I have peeled 2/3 my tar out and have a little left. I used a pneumatic multi-tool from HF with a quality blade and heat gun. Works well but I am curious about the dry ice. |
mepstein |
Feb 27 2017, 02:11 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Dry ice also works well I have heard this too. My son and I are going to give it a try. I have peeled 2/3 my tar out and have a little left. I used a pneumatic multi-tool from HF with a quality blade and heat gun. Works well but I am curious about the dry ice. Dry ice will probably delaminate any undercoating so think about that before you do it. |
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