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Crazy from the Cold... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,003 ![]() |
Since I ran a DTM shroud on my 2270 when it was in the bug, I ran T1 air deflectors and they cooled great. Get those on the car, plus their dirt cheap ($3 each or so?)
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914 Wizard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,020 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Larry,
I gotta say.. nice fab work! brant |
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None ![]() |
Damn! That's a lot of air. No wonder the DTM cools so nice. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
T-1 engines used deflector tins similar to what you have created, instead of getting a blast of air straight down, you get it straight back. I would think this would help temps at idle if stuck in traffic, since if the hot air was just blowing striaght down, the heat would have a tendency to rise back up and get the engine hotter.
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 3,604 ![]() |
DaveP;
Air guides?...Are you referring to these? They are on the engine, and the engine is in the car now. Just have to hook everything up. Attached image(s) ![]() |
mattillac |
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dunno? random google pic. |
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I was referring to part numbers 59, 60, 62 and 63 on this diagram. Attached image(s) ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 2,934 ![]() |
Also, with an upright cooling system like that, it may cool better with the type 1 bottom tins than the type 4 tins.
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 3,604 ![]() |
Reiche;
Thanks for the photo....I think I may have those air guides in the shop. I have a dismantled 1.7 engine out there. I'll see if I can make them fit some how. I don't have any type 1 undertins though. The engine has been installed today, and I'm not sure that I could get the type 4 undertins off....But I'll scope it out anyway. Why do you think the type one tins would be better?? |
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Crazy from the Cold... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 647 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,003 ![]() |
T1 tins are generally better for upright converted motors. I would suggest using them over the stock T4 ones, since they are designed just for pancake cooling.
Tom |
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None ![]() |
You can't remove the under cylinder tin from a T4 without removing the pushrod tubes. If you want them out in one pieces that is...
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 3,604 ![]() |
Update...I've made up air guides for the shroud since the stock ones won't fit, and you guys got me all worried!
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 2,934 ![]() |
Well done. I think that will work much better for cooling. If not, you could trim the ends of those new baffles until it does. Do you have a CHT gauge? Keep us posted.
Your dust problem should be solved too. |
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Guitar Shredder ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Turlock, CA Member No.: 2,157 ![]() |
So vw bus headers/exhaust work on our engines? I thought the heads were different?
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Those head pipes are from a 75-77 Bus.... The rest of the system is pure junk..
The Bus head pipes will work and are the same as the 914 right up till August of 1978 when the heads on the bus changed to a square port... The 914 heads are not magical in this area.. As for the tin you have made, it should work fine.. The stock TI engine had a tin just like that and it actually helps draw air from the engine as vehicle speed and fan pressure increases... BTW- Make sure you run a 4-1 collector with that exhaust, not duals, these engines MUST have a collecteor and the nicer it is the better! I have seen a TWENTY FIVE percent power loss when going to dual exhaust without an collector/extractor on a TIV engine! |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 3,604 ![]() |
Thanks for your comments Jake.
The exhaust system is basically what was on it when I bought the car. I've only put quieter mufflers on it. It is only temporary until I decide which system I want....and can afford. I want the best I can get, but it must be fairly quiet. |
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None ![]() |
Nothing wrong from a Type 3 person's point of view since that is how the stock T3 cooling tin works (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I even use the stock pieces on my 2007cc T3 motor...no problems with over-heating (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) |
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