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My 914-6 past history |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 23 2017, 06:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Hi,
Hoping someone can shed some light on my 914-6 past history. What I know so far is that the car was last rego 1982 in Rhode Island, in 2002 it was sold on Evil bay in the ad it says that the car had been in WA in storage since 1985. I purchased the car from the guy that brought it. He had it shipped to Sydney NSW Australia ( and had a look and went holy sh!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)) , I purchased the car from him and it now lives in Queensland Australia. Has been in storage here for over 10 years and I will at some stage return it back to an original 914-6. Any help with the history would be very helpful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Thanks to Larry LEE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) for the ad info he doesn't have any thing else on it. The following was found on www.ebay.com 9 June 2002 1970 Porsche : 914 914/6 914/6 Factory 914-6 Restore or Donor Car Item # 1834254263 Item located in: Passenger Vehicles : Porsche : 914 Seller gio@sprynet.com Location Woodinville, WA Country/Region United States/Seattle-Tacoma · 106344 Miles · 6 - Cyl. · 2 doors · Manual transmission · Used · Clear title · White Exterior - Black Interior · VIN: 9140431269 Factory 914-6 Restore or Donor Car Vehicle Description Very Low Reserve: 1970 Porsche Factory 914/6 . VIN# 9140431269 Engine# 6404774 Indicated Mileage:106,344 . This is an original 914/6. 914/6 6 cylinder engine with Weber Carbs, rare, factory heat exchanger system (appears to be in pretty good shape). Tail shifter transmission installed and side shifter transmission with correct mounts is included in this auction. Factory Silver car with black interior and Appearance Group. This car has just recently come out of long-term storage, and needs full restoration. It would make a good donor car for building a 914/6 using a less rusty 914/4 or 914/6 body, for parts or spares for an original 914/6. Finally, for someone wanting a challenge, replace underbody sheetmetal, etc, and restore this car. In my opinion, the car has a good deal of rust, especially in rocker panels, sills, floorpans and rear of rear trunk pan, battery tray. No apparent dents or collision damage anywhere in the body, from what I can see. Inner fenders, nose and rear are very straight. Paint is old, and in overall poor condition. Rust spots in painted areas of body have been treated with rust stop chemical, and touched up with silver paint. Glass is in very good condition, excellent windshield, overall good condition trim. Solid doors. Original interior. I tried turning the engine over with a wrench on the generator, and engine would not turn. It may need to be lubricated, or may require dissassembly. Fuchs 14 in. Alloy wheels with Michelin XZX tires with 80% wear left. (I will substitute the original, 1970 date stamped 15 in. wheels and hubcaps for these Fuchs, if buyer wants these). I just purchased this car from a local 914 enthusiast who owned this car since 1985. I own another very clean 914/6 set up for autocrossing track and high performance street use which I will be selling this summer, so I know 914/6s reasonably well. This car was looked at by a 914/6 expert mechanic today, and he felt the car was nearly complete, with correct 914/6 engine and transmission and so on. The only part he noticed to be missing is speedometer cable drive. I have 914/6 rear emblem, but not installed. This mechanic outlined the major steps in converting a 914/4 to a 914/6, using a 914/6 donor car: Remove 914/4 engine mounts and install 914/6 mounts. Drill holes for 914/6 oil filter, oil lines and oil tank. Change engine compartment wiring harness to 914/6 harness. Install 914/6 relay(electronics) board. Install engine. Change front struts and brakes, and A-arms if desired. Install 914/6 steering system and guages. There certainly may be other, minor steps required. On Jun-04-02 at 05:48:32 PDT, seller added the following information: BODY/CHASSIS CONDITION UPDATE: A bidder asked if the rust on the car was surface or more serious rust-through or holes? The rocker panels and sections of floor are heavily rusted with major rust-through or holes. Rocker panels are largely gone. Other isolated underbody areas have rust holes. RH door does not latch possibly because rockers are so far gone. Back of rear trunklid has rust-through, and will not latch. Rear bumper has rust-through at bottom. Many bolt-heads on engine and trans have heavy surface rust. I'm sure other areas are rusty. No rust holes were found in Heat Exchangers from my visual inspection-oil on the exchangers seems to have helped protect them. Because of rust, many would consider this as a donor or parts car. However, its a valuable car that might be worth restoring. CONDITION OF BRAKES: Front calipers were stuck, and were removed to allow car to roll. They are of course included with car, as is spare, side shift transmission with mounts in unknown condition. E-brake lever is not bolted to body. Brakes most likely will require total restoration. This car was listed for sale on ebay June 2002 |
gcrotvik |
Mar 23 2017, 07:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Posting some pictures might help. Good luck with your search! Take a look in the VIN database here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=94572
Greg |
sixnotfour |
Mar 24 2017, 10:10 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Jim Giordano has been peddling cars and projects/parts for years..
http://giocars.com/giocars/ http://www.stazak.com/914reg/1970c.html Attached image(s) |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 24 2017, 06:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Yep thanks thats the car from it's best side I guess the fuzziness helps also LOL.
It doesn't look like it has been driven since 1982 still has an expired Rhode Island windscreen sticker on it with the mileage. |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 25 2017, 04:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
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Mark Henry |
Mar 25 2017, 03:56 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Have to see all the pics, but it doesn't really sound like the seller misrepresented it much. More than once he says it would be good for parts and it would be a major project for restoration. He does put a positive spin on the ad, but also states the floors and longs are gone.
Too much cash and work back then, but with the /6 prices and the parts available from RD likely do-able now. |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 25 2017, 06:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Yep I hope so, won't be starting work on it any time soon, might start gathering parts, so the cost is spread out.
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sixnotfour |
Mar 25 2017, 08:02 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
no matter ...you own a Factory SIX
I cant count the number of wrecked sixes I have collected parts from ..only wish I bought the whole car...Time Marches On... including yours |
Mark Henry |
Mar 25 2017, 09:31 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Yep I hope so, won't be starting work on it any time soon, might start gathering parts, so the cost is spread out. If you need to collect Restoration Design steel over a long time I'd be willing to store a box for you till it's full. I go to the RD open house every fall (sept/oct), Pete at RD will vouch for me. RD is in Canada. I'm Canadian so I know all about the expense of shipping, duties, etc. for us commonwealth mates. Just a thought. |
Kaeferfreund |
Mar 26 2017, 08:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-July 13 From: Germany Member No.: 16,172 Region Association: Germany |
Some more pics of the car in the long shot would be nice. |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 26 2017, 08:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Some more pics if you're scared by extreme rust look away now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
Can't get any of the passengers side long/sill area as I'm not game to try and open the door (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 26 2017, 08:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Yep I hope so, won't be starting work on it any time soon, might start gathering parts, so the cost is spread out. If you need to collect Restoration Design steel over a long time I'd be willing to store a box for you till it's full. I go to the RD open house every fall (sept/oct), Pete at RD will vouch for me. RD is in Canada. I'm Canadian so I know all about the expense of shipping, duties, etc. for us commonwealth mates. Just a thought. Thanks for the offer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Canadians are tops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) I have 2 donor cars stored in a shipping container and quite a few usable panels/rust repair sections. I need to have a big clean out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) and check what I can use and what I'll have to source. Go the commonwealth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Mar 26 2017, 08:46 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Well it's definitely going to be a project, but I've seen members start with worse.
Let's see some pics of the longs. It's a six, done right it's not going to be cheap, but with the way /6 prices are going it's worth restoring it. The only real way of losing is if you abandon the project halfway through. The way you sell it to the wife/GF is you tell her that at least she'll always know where you are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Mar 27 2017, 08:23 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,071 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
A real 6 with REAL rust. Even the gauge cluster. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Good luck.
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Kaeferfreund |
Mar 27 2017, 02:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 28-July 13 From: Germany Member No.: 16,172 Region Association: Germany |
Some more pics if you're scared by extreme rust look away now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Can't get any of the left side long/sill area as I'm not game to try and open the door (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Holy shit!....that needs a lot (!) of work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Hope you have enough time and deep pockets. But, a real "6" is worth being saved (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_wirdgut.gif) |
SirAndy |
Mar 27 2017, 03:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,610 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Some more pics if you're scared by extreme rust look away now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Can't get any of the left side long/sill area as I'm not game to try and open the door Holy shit!....that needs a lot (!) of work I've seen worse being brought back to live. The good news is that most of the parts are there and numbers matching. I see a lot of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) in your future ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Jason 914-6 |
Mar 27 2017, 10:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
Some more pics if you're scared by extreme rust look away now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Can't get any of the left side long/sill area as I'm not game to try and open the door Holy shit!....that needs a lot (!) of work I've seen worse being brought back to live. The good news is that most of the parts are there and numbers matching. I see a lot of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) in your future ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yep It was a big gamble to buy it 10 years ago, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Will be about that long again before work starts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Its safe and won't rust any more in the shed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Michel |
Mar 28 2017, 05:33 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 22-August 13 From: Australia Member No.: 16,286 Region Association: None |
Jason I'm in oz Leo. have a 914 project aka GT SCHMUCK WANNABE that at the moment is making glacial progress.
I'll send you my number. Next time up your way if time interest catch up. Cheers Michel |
Jason 914-6 |
Apr 22 2017, 07:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 7-November 04 From: Australia Member No.: 3,069 |
[quote name='Mark Henry' date='Mar 26 2017, 06:46 PM' post='2468623']
Well it's definitely going to be a project, but I've seen members start with worse. Let's see some pics of the longs. Is this bad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Apr 22 2017, 08:14 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Naah, a little duct tape, some tie-wraps, and you're good to go! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
--DD |
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