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| Tastyplacement |
 Apr 13 2017, 12:15 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 20,358 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region  |
71 Converted to side shift. I tried to extract a mangled screw--it didn't go well.
Now what? I was just to put boots on. should I just drive like this? It's a spec race car. If I do need to rebuild this, do I need the whole shift rod, or is this U-joint/C-joint somehow separable from the shift rod? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-20358-1492107334.1.jpg) |
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| 76-914 |
Apr 13 2017, 12:20 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,501 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California 
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Yep, the rod has splined ends. Your's is just frozen on. After you drill out the set screw I recommend a severe cussing, a good penetrant and some heat. That piece is Aluminum, IIRC, so don't melt it.
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| Tastyplacement |
Apr 13 2017, 12:24 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 20,358 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 13 2017, 01:20 PM)  Yep, the rod has splined ends. Your's is just frozen on. After you drill out the set screw I recommend a severe cussing, a good penetrant and some heat. That piece is Aluminum, IIRC, so don't melt it. Oh, the cussing has already been taken care of. |
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| gcrotvik |
Apr 13 2017, 01:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
When you drill out the set screw, be careful to drill in the center and not drill too deep. I drilled mine out but ended up elongating the hole in the shift rod (I wasn't drilling dead center). I had to replace the shift rod.
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| Dave_Darling |
Apr 13 2017, 02:16 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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That aluminum piece is replaceable. You're only likely to find it used as part of a shift rod, but you might be able to use a 911 shift rod coupler in its place. Or go for an aircraft-quality universal joint, with some way to adapt it to connect the two parts of the rod together.
Anyway, it's not a crime to break or cut the aluminum part so you can remove it from the front shift rod. It looks pretty thoroughly buggered up anyway now. --DD |
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| Jonathan Livesay |
Apr 13 2017, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 741 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None
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Cut it off put this on. http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/914-9...-76-p23609.html
IMO used ones are a PITA the threads for the locking bolt are always two more adjustments away from stripping. |
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| rgalla9146 |
Apr 13 2017, 04:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,552 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None
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Carefully cut the alloy part beside the drilled fastener so that the screw is released.
Hacksaw, Sawsall (carefull now) or disc grinder will do it. Replace the piece and the cone screw (!?) |
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| Tastyplacement |
Apr 13 2017, 06:01 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 20,358 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks, Teeners....
I ordered the Sierra Madre part, backordered, but I'll get it in about 10 days. |
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| bbrock |
Apr 13 2017, 07:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I did that once. And my attempts to drill it out only made things worse. Took it to a local machine shop where they extracted the bolt, heliarc welded the hole shut. Ground it flat, and re-tapped it. They even machined me a couple of tapered bolts with hex heads on it and I think they charged less than $10. That was several decades ago though. But I still have those bolts. But I don't remember how I got the piece off. I guess that's the real problem.
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| nwm5709 |
Apr 13 2017, 07:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 7-January 16 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 19,536 Region Association: South East States |
I need to remove stripped set screws at both ends of my rear shift rod. I'm planning on trying reverse easy out drill bits. I'm not sure how easy it will come out but I'd like to avoid this problem if at all possible.
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| marksteinhilber |
Apr 13 2017, 07:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
Yep, the easy outs will work and all you need then are new cone screws! Drilling in the center of the cone screw is easiest with the best cobalt or titanium nitride drill bits you can find. The tend to go straighter and don't bugger the threads. The easy out bites harder and harder while unscrewing until the set screw finally comes free.
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| nwm5709 |
Apr 13 2017, 08:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 7-January 16 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 19,536 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(marksteinhilber @ Apr 13 2017, 09:56 PM) Yep, the easy outs will work and all you need then are new cone screws! Drilling in the center of the cone screw is easiest with the best cobalt or titanium nitride drill bits you can find. The tend to go straighter and don't bugger the threads. The easy out bites harder and harder while unscrewing until the set screw finally comes free. So when choosing the easy out size, should I pick the smallest size? That way it drills down the middle without drilling the threaded outside? |
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| Elliot Cannon |
Apr 13 2017, 08:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(Tastyplacement @ Apr 13 2017, 05:01 PM) Thanks, Teeners.... I ordered the Sierra Madre part, backordered, but I'll get it in about 10 days. I have the whole rod and coupler you can have for shipping costs if you want it. It's from a 1973. I replaced mine with one of them orange colored ones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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| Jonathan Livesay |
Apr 13 2017, 09:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 741 Joined: 13-March 10 From: La Canada CA Member No.: 11,461 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Tastyplacement @ Apr 13 2017, 05:01 PM) Thanks, Teeners.... I ordered the Sierra Madre part, backordered, but I'll get it in about 10 days. Try Pelican Parts. They are cheaper but Sierra Madre had a better picture. :-) |
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| 914work |
Apr 13 2017, 10:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 9-November 11 Member No.: 13,762 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Apr 13 2017, 08:09 PM) Try Pelican Parts. They are cheaper but Sierra Madre had a better picture. :-) That picture was for the 911 part. Also dosent say if it comes with the pin? |
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