 Turbo Tie Rods installed, but..., Alignment seems impossible |
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| tygaboy |
 Apr 17 2017, 05:08 PM
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914 Guru  Group: Members Posts: 5,292 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California 
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I installed the turbo tie rod kit.
I used the thick washers that came with the kit. With the tie rod ends cranked all the way in on both sides, I still have visible toe in on both wheels. I thought I'd read that the washers are needed to ensure enough tire rod end thread engagement. NOTE: I have 911 Boge struts Should I have left the washers out? I can't imagine what else it could be but I'd like confirmation from you experienced folks that I do, indeed, need to remove the washers. Oh, the joys of learning...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Thanks, Chris |
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| 914_teener |
Apr 17 2017, 06:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
You need to align the front end after installing the kit.
The tie rods have a longer threaded shank and the washers are used to bottom against the rack since it is in compression once you thread the tie rod tight. You should align the front end after installing the kit anyways. There is a thread about how to do it yourself if you want to save 400 to 500 bucks. Taint hard. |
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| 914_teener |
Apr 17 2017, 06:39 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
....Leave them in and align your front end= short answer.
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| 914_teener |
Apr 17 2017, 06:43 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Oh....jeez....re-read post. Make sure you have the right tie rod ends... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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| tygaboy |
Apr 18 2017, 07:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,292 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California
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I spoke with a few folks and it seems the need for the washers is: "it depends".
With the mix of parts and my car, I clearly have plenty of thread engagement on the tie rod ends so... out come the washers. I'll post more if I learn anything more that others may find valuable. |
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| mgphoto |
Apr 18 2017, 09:20 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you install the washers with the chamfered side toward the tie rod not the steering rack?
Mike |
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| JFJ914 |
Apr 18 2017, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 813 Joined: 13-June 03 From: Alpharetta, GA Member No.: 814 Region Association: South East States 
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Apr 17 2017, 07:08 PM)  I installed the turbo tie rod kit. I used the thick washers that came with the kit. With the tie rod ends cranked all the way in on both sides, I still have visible toe in on both wheels. I thought I'd read that the washers are needed to ensure enough tire rod end thread engagement. Is this toe out with the car on the ground or on the jackstands? Crazy toe is expected with the car off the ground. NOTE: I have 911 Boge struts Should I have left the washers out? No, they are the steering stops. I can't imagine what else it could be but I'd like confirmation from you experienced folks that I do, indeed, need to remove the washers. Oh, the joys of learning...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Thanks, Chris |
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| McMark |
Apr 18 2017, 10:38 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
The washers are steering stops, but generally speaking on most 914s, the tires will hit the body before the steering rack is in danger of being overextended. There are loads of 914s running without them.
For the best of both worlds, get the cupped setup from Elephant Racing. http://elephantracing.com/suspension/tirerub/914tirerub.htm (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/elephantracing.com-419-1492533502.1.jpg) |
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