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JFG |
May 21 2017, 09:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 7-April 16 From: Wales Member No.: 19,869 Region Association: None |
I have a stock w code 1700 engine to rebuild for my car.
I would like to run a twin 40 idf set up. There is no fuel injection set up to put on it and the car had all the guts ripped out before i bought it. The engine is fairly tidy and compression is good. I've learned that i need to to change the cam as the djet is unsuitable for carbs. As my budget is low for the engine build i was going to hone the cylinders and fit new piston rings and keep the 1700 cc size. What i need to know is what size cam should i fit (it's a street car only) and what other bits would be needed for this upgrade? |
Dave_Darling |
May 21 2017, 11:08 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,982 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Changing the cam is not required. You're leaving performance on the table if you don't change it, but it is not required. If you're on a tight budget, and you don't have to mess with the bottom end of the motor (e.g., the bearings are OK and oil pressure is good and so on) then leave the cam and lifters as-is.
If you are going to split the case, then make sure you use a cam and lifters from the same manufacturer. The Web 86 grind is a popular cam that lets you rev some more but isn't completely crazy. --DD |
914_teener |
May 21 2017, 12:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
IMHO:
Leave the bottom and as is. Find a set of 1.8 liter heads or flycut the 1.7 heads and put 96 barrels on for a 1911. Find a 2.0 Djet set up and run it. Fun street set up. My 02. |
r_towle |
May 21 2017, 09:37 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,573 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
if compression is good, and you intend to leave it with the same displacement, and you have a whole car to fix, do nothing but clean the motor without opening it up.
Replace the oil cooler seals, the push rod tube seals, the oil sump gaskets, and the thermostat on the top of the motor. you want to replace those seals and thermostat to reduce any oil that will leak out. Aside from that, bolt on the carbs and run it for now. Spend the rest of your money on the car to make it safe and looking like you want. Rich |
JFG |
May 24 2017, 06:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 7-April 16 From: Wales Member No.: 19,869 Region Association: None |
I checked the cam throught cylinder & lifter holes. It is in really good condition with no wear or scoring. The lifters however are flat. Am i correct in thinking they should have a slight dome? The cam wears them flat?
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Optimusglen |
May 24 2017, 09:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 905 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Mark Henry |
May 24 2017, 11:54 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I checked the cam throught cylinder & lifter holes. It is in really good condition with no wear or scoring. The lifters however are flat. Am i correct in thinking they should have a slight dome? The cam wears them flat? Yes the lifters are slightly convex new, take two lifters and place them face to face and hold them up to a light. If they have a bit of light around the edge then they are still good. Flat they really should be replaced, concave definitely should be replaced. |
mepstein |
May 24 2017, 01:15 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,255 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
if compression is good, and you intend to leave it with the same displacement, and you have a whole car to fix, do nothing but clean the motor without opening it up. Replace the oil cooler seals, the push rod tube seals, the oil sump gaskets, and the thermostat on the top of the motor. you want to replace those seals and thermostat to reduce any oil that will leak out. Aside from that, bolt on the carbs and run it for now. Spend the rest of your money on the car to make it safe and looking like you want. Rich Good advise. Then pick up a core engine and rebuild it while you have a running car. |
Dave_Darling |
May 25 2017, 02:39 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,982 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
If the lifters are flat, the cam is toast. Time to open up the bottom end.
--DD |
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