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> OT: auto trans swap in VW`Mk4, 09G to 09A - need advice
poorsche914
post May 27 2017, 08:57 PM
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I have posted this in two different places on VWVortex but have gotten ZERO response (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

Hoping someone here will have experience with these transmissions.

My son has an '02 GTI 5-speed that needs some major work restoration work. We have located a parts car that will work perfectly - '03 GTI in same color but with an automatic transmission.

I have an '04 New Beetle Convertible with 6-speed Tiptronic (09G) that ist kaput. VB and solenoids have been tried without success - still flares into 4th and never engages. I think it is a mechanical issue that would entail tearing down the unit... something I am not equipped to do.

My question: is the 09A (5-speed tiptronic) a direct drop-in for the 09G (6-speed tiptronic)? Is it as simple as swapping the units and TCM? I do have a VAG-COM so can clear codes, etc if needed.

Sure would be nice to get two non-op VWs back on the road. Will clear up the driveway for another 914 project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Any advice and input is much appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post May 27 2017, 10:00 PM
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No idea. I imagine you would have to switch out the TCM's and at the very least reprogram the trani code in VagCom for the engine. Maybe new guage cluster?


I think your better off getting the right trani and selling your old one.
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post May 27 2017, 10:06 PM
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I may be off topic, but I'd love to see a modern automatic in a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah I know, sports car blasphemy... just saying.
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post May 27 2017, 10:56 PM
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Ive been wondering about the feasivility of a PDK from a boxster in my setup... itll bolt up... but I really dont know if the control parameters will be able to be programed right..
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post May 28 2017, 07:47 AM
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See if you can get this question in front of Tom w/AP Tuning in the Vortex transmission forum. They do quite a bit of trans work and may be able to get you that answer.
I do know that there are differences in the crankshaft snubs between manual and automatics. With both being electronic designs you would think they would be compatible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post May 28 2017, 09:58 AM
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a Paddle shift 914 would be badass ...!!!
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ May 28 2017, 12:00 AM) *
No idea. I imagine you would have to switch out the TCM's and at the very least reprogram the trani code in VagCom for the engine. Maybe new guage cluster?

I think your better off getting the right trani and selling your old one.
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http://www.car-part.com/

The problem is, an entire decade or more of VW automatics are garbage. Buying a used one would be hit or miss. Even if coming from a "known working" car - just a matter of time before it has issues. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Thanks for the response.

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post May 28 2017, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(okieflyr @ May 28 2017, 09:47 AM) *
See if you can get this question in front of Tom w/AP Tuning in the Vortex transmission forum. They do quite a bit of trans work and may be able to get you that answer.
I do know that there are differences in the crankshaft snubs between manual and automatics. With both being electronic designs you would think they would be compatible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I have this same question posted in both the Automatic Transmission and Golf/Jetta Mk4 forums of VWVortex. After a week, no response yet. I'll keep checking.

If we end up getting the parts GTI and I find the time, I may just try swapping them and seeing what happens.

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