OT: auto trans swap in VW`Mk4, 09G to 09A - need advice |
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OT: auto trans swap in VW`Mk4, 09G to 09A - need advice |
poorsche914 |
May 27 2017, 08:57 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,087 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
I have posted this in two different places on VWVortex but have gotten ZERO response (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
Hoping someone here will have experience with these transmissions. My son has an '02 GTI 5-speed that needs some major work restoration work. We have located a parts car that will work perfectly - '03 GTI in same color but with an automatic transmission. I have an '04 New Beetle Convertible with 6-speed Tiptronic (09G) that ist kaput. VB and solenoids have been tried without success - still flares into 4th and never engages. I think it is a mechanical issue that would entail tearing down the unit... something I am not equipped to do. My question: is the 09A (5-speed tiptronic) a direct drop-in for the 09G (6-speed tiptronic)? Is it as simple as swapping the units and TCM? I do have a VAG-COM so can clear codes, etc if needed. Sure would be nice to get two non-op VWs back on the road. Will clear up the driveway for another 914 project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Any advice and input is much appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Andyrew |
May 27 2017, 10:00 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
No idea. I imagine you would have to switch out the TCM's and at the very least reprogram the trani code in VagCom for the engine. Maybe new guage cluster?
I think your better off getting the right trani and selling your old one. Great resource http://www.car-part.com/ |
Rand |
May 27 2017, 10:06 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
I may be off topic, but I'd love to see a modern automatic in a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah I know, sports car blasphemy... just saying.
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Andyrew |
May 27 2017, 10:56 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Ive been wondering about the feasivility of a PDK from a boxster in my setup... itll bolt up... but I really dont know if the control parameters will be able to be programed right..
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okieflyr |
May 28 2017, 07:47 AM
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9fauxteen Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 9-January 05 From: Phila PA Member No.: 3,426 Region Association: North East States |
See if you can get this question in front of Tom w/AP Tuning in the Vortex transmission forum. They do quite a bit of trans work and may be able to get you that answer.
I do know that there are differences in the crankshaft snubs between manual and automatics. With both being electronic designs you would think they would be compatible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
flmont |
May 28 2017, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
a Paddle shift 914 would be badass ...!!!
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poorsche914 |
May 28 2017, 10:59 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,087 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
No idea. I imagine you would have to switch out the TCM's and at the very least reprogram the trani code in VagCom for the engine. Maybe new guage cluster? I think your better off getting the right trani and selling your old one. Great resource http://www.car-part.com/ The problem is, an entire decade or more of VW automatics are garbage. Buying a used one would be hit or miss. Even if coming from a "known working" car - just a matter of time before it has issues. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Thanks for the response. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
poorsche914 |
May 28 2017, 11:04 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,087 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
See if you can get this question in front of Tom w/AP Tuning in the Vortex transmission forum. They do quite a bit of trans work and may be able to get you that answer. I do know that there are differences in the crankshaft snubs between manual and automatics. With both being electronic designs you would think they would be compatible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I have this same question posted in both the Automatic Transmission and Golf/Jetta Mk4 forums of VWVortex. After a week, no response yet. I'll keep checking. If we end up getting the parts GTI and I find the time, I may just try swapping them and seeing what happens. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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