Porsche building cars without a VIN? (911), 914s also, maybe? |
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Porsche building cars without a VIN? (911), 914s also, maybe? |
74ravenna |
Jul 11 2017, 04:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 471 Joined: 19-October 14 From: nh Member No.: 18,032 Region Association: North East States |
Hi all,
Last week a coworker sent me a photo of a 911 without a VIN. Its a factory built race car that the owner bought new around 1970 (i think) and put the car away, never really drove it i guess. To look at the photo you'd think it was a nut and bolt restoration, but its all original! So, did Porsche actually build cars without a VIN in situations like this? I can't help but think that they had to put some sort of numbers/ID on it. Did they build any 914s in this same manner? Steve |
Tom_T |
Jul 11 2017, 05:14 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Steve,
Since a VIN is technically only a US-DOT requirement for street vehicles, it's possible that a non-street race car could have been produced without a VIN, but IIRC even Porsche's racing department had some sort of ID or Serial Nos. on their Factory Race Cars - even the 917s, 906s, 908s, etc. I'd have your co-worker ask for more info & documentation on that car from the original buyer/family & seller if different. It should at least have a Chassis Number stamped on it somewhere, I would think. This would also be a question for your co-worker to ask & verify on this particular car, with Porsche AG in Germany &/or PCNA in Atlanta, if they're really interested in buying this car. Even if it checks out with them, I don't think that it can be registered for on street use now, without getting a VIN assigned to it - which Porsche would have to do AFAIK, but yet another thing to research with US-DOT & your co-worker's State DMV. What TC is talking about "Body in White" is basically a replacement car body with no VIN on it yet, which could be used for a total rebuild/resto by Porsche &/or a state licensed shop - either of which under specific rules is allowed to assign the VIN from another car being repaired/rebuilt, & it may involve a "Rebuilt" title in the end. At one point a few years back I was researching doing a body in white rebuild of my 73 914-2.0 if the cost of it was less that the total accident/rust repair on mine, but they don't have 914 body in white anymore - so that went out the window for me. PS - Since it is possible to "create" a seemingly original car - & there have been a couple of examples around - I would say buyer beware & check everything out fully & get full documentations from the original owner (if possible) &/or from Porsche, before paying anything on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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