calling engine rebuilders, looking for your input on these bearings, 2.2T 6-cyl |
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calling engine rebuilders, looking for your input on these bearings, 2.2T 6-cyl |
Optimusglen |
Jul 17 2017, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 901 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
First, read this carefully. I'm not going to re-use the bearings. Never planned on it. I am just looking for input on condition and wear patterns.
This past weekend I was able to split the case on a 2.2T engine I am rebuilding for my 914. So far the tear down has been great, nothing broken, no chunks of metal or debris, everything came apart without much fuss, and the case has time-serts. Case is apart now, most of the bearings looks really good, a few have some wear. I've had a few engines apart but not many, and those were special circumstances so I don't have a lot of personal experience reading wear on bearings. One case half (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297820.1.jpg) From one end to the other, close up's on each of them (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297820.2.jpg) This one seems to have much more wear than all of the others for the crank. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297820.3.jpg) The dark spot here is oil. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.5.jpg) Wear on the far edge of this one. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.7.jpg) For the intermediate shaft bearings: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.8.jpg) More wear here too. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-19709-1500297821.9.jpg) Any thoughts or input from you guys and gals? The engine was a core, unknown history. Buying it was a roll of the dice. |
Mark Henry |
Jul 17 2017, 07:49 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
To re-process used bearings with DFL first thing is they have to be in spec to start with.
Copper isn't always bad, OE mains you can see the copper on the thrust surface right out of the box new, but copper on the main surface they're done. With some of the intermediate thrust shells, even the surface is copper. DFL won't replace lost material, fix scratches or wear, as it's only .0002-0004 thick and I think the .0004 is optimistic. Also once you say "case line bore" I say "new bearings". I haven't seen a full set of mains worth saving on a mag case yet, but I have done a few sets from aluminum cases with good results. I believe it's a combo of the AL case not shifting like mag and the later 9 bolt cranks don't bend as much. DFL coatings are perfect for new as it helps protect your bearings upon break in first start and every time you start the engine when you have no oil pressure, especially after storage. |
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