3.0 SC conversion to Suburu, Weber Schmeber Options

[forrestkhaag]

I have decided to convert to Subaru power. I just bought one with a brand new motor on it and it starts every time, idles, runs like a charm, and does not require a seance just to figure out the carburetor.......... Pictures to follow

As some of you know, I recently thrashed out a beautiful 3.0 911 SC from top to bottom / nothing spared in the rebuild. I sourced most everything from the original 914-6 oil tank, fittings, console, cap, dipstick, etc. I built from scratch afront oil cooler with a Mazda aluminum cooler, homemade shroud, fan, etc., and cut and welded the front bumper and valnce to match the intake... It works great but the way.

After the first 100 miles, I drained the break-in oil with no visible filings or debris on the magnetic drain plug. At 500 miles, I did the same with the same clean results. Now at 1000 miles and the MSD twisted up to 5000rpm limits, i cannot get the car to idle or run for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

A story of misery:

So I just had the excruciating experience of taking the car to Costco some 15 miles from my home down Pacific Coast HWY and (if I had made it back) 15 miles back.

Background: Yesterday keith and I took out the tranny again - the one that I just put first and reverse gears in replacing toasted needle bearings etc. In that process, we lost the clutch throwout necessary to disengage the Kennedy Stage II (again) so we had to R&I it yet again to place TWO dimes and one ball cup and two washers behind the ball stud to get some play back into the clutch fork.

After that Keith and I cleaned the idle jets and checked the air flow, linkage, and eliminated any popping out the exhaust or stacks. It sounded pretty good but was not holding an idle.

That seemed to werk for 2 miles returning home from that session with Keith yesterday. I slept like a baby.

Then today, on the way to Costco, first and reverse returned to play the rice krispie crunch symphony and second was only attainable if the car was turned off - which it did for me at every stop along the way to and fro.

Of course it is sweltering here on the coast today (up to 79 degree and Man that's hot here!) and so the car wanted to flood out when it died at ever light or stop sign on the 15 mile journey each way. I got partially out of the way of four lanes of stop and go beach crap-traffic then it died and stayed dead.

Prior to that it had no idle, or would hold a two thousand + rpm screaming at a stop sign while innocent people in the beachside cross walks ran in every direction throwing their babies into the bushes in case of an explosion / and yet no obstructions in any idle jet, good gas, three fresh inline filters, a recurved dizzy to match the webcam work
and a dizzy that doesn't respond to a tapping thereon, good timing and all prior to the rapid deterioration of everything being considered.

I even took off the carbs yesterday and checked the butterflies for closure and they looked fine to a novice and are new from the guy that sold them to me then charged me 4 Bills to clean them a third time, put in new butterflies and check for shaft leaks (none).......

Of course the guy I purchased them from just had a death in the family (not 914 related) and, regardless of that unfortunate turn of events, is notorious for lack of responsiveness or follow up to multi thousand dollar purchase-guys like me,,,, so I am considering having this pig trucked to our home in Scottsdale, covered in a garage, and await winter and some talent that can sort it out. This is no fun anymore.

To recap: New filters, good fuel pressure, float levels checked and good, clean idle jets (changed from 60's to 65's to eliminate bog issues), three times sonically cleaned for hundreds of dollars, perfect new linkage with great balls, rods, and shafts - MSD ignition, wiring harness by the master PK, ran great for about 999.0257 miles.

Any thoughts outside of what every book and post has advised? I have been there and done that at least twenty times in 999 miles...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Sidebar: At least, while waiting for the tow truck in absolutely frozen traffic on pacific coast highway, I was able to (prior to sun spoilage) give away the fresh 2 pound slab of sockeye salmon, 24 brown organic eggs, two cartons of cottage cheese and a one pound wedge of smokey gouda to a smokin hot beach goer headed home to her hubby - verses getting home with a bag of spoiled rotten food.

[Keyser Sose]

"...smokin' hot beach goer"? Need photos or it didn't happen.

[BigFour1973]

Ill tell you what, ill trade you an ej257 from an 05 wrx sti unknown internals.... straight across for the 3.0 .

Now thats a deal you cant pass up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[Porschef]

"...smokin' hot beach goer"? Need photos or it didn't happen.

Yeah, c'mon, did she at least show you her boobs?


The Gouda may have survived...

[forrestkhaag]

Ill tell you what, ill trade you an ej257 from an 05 wrx sti unknown internals.... straight across for the 3.0 .

Now thats a deal you cant pass up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Hmmmmmmmmm That sounds like a ,.......... wait, my phone is ringing,... Hold on with that thought. My shrink is calling to make sure I gave away the Citori verses using it in my frustrations with Weber (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) .

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[Larmo63]

Tortoise and the Hare.

[michael7810]

I you don't want to look at it, you can put it in my garage in Scottsdale...just leave the title and I'll take good care of it.

[forrestkhaag]

I you don't want to look at it, you can put it in my garage in Scottsdale...just leave the title and I'll take good care of it.

Hey Michael: We need to connect this winter when I take the cover off of this pig.

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[forrestkhaag]

And Larmo: You, for once in you infinitesimal life, are almost right - for once.

The Hare shot out of the box to get a ride done in his lifetime - not thinking that the current state of healthcare would be the lifenet..

You were there Pal. I found a core 3.0. Albeit, a 3.0 with burnt valve guides but complete to the shroud / then tore it down to it to its innards and documented all of that errata. and then rebuilt it up to a screaming beast.......... until the italians showed up.

Why is there not a Weberschinetizel carbs? We have Webers.

The Italians don't work half the day. The Germans missed a bet here...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

[Larmo63]

Found the girl.........and your cheese

[infraredcalvin]

Sorry to hear of your issues, I'm starting my 3.0 tear down, but you're convincing me to stick with CIS or go with a simple efi setup. I like the looks and sounds of carbs, but know nothing about the magic to make them run well.

[jim_hoyland]

.... And, be sure to mention, you previously has a trouble free -4 that ran like a six... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

[Steve]

Simple fix
1. Second mortgage
2. Find reputable shop
3. Say "fix it"

[Front yard mechanic]

Fuel inject that so and so and sell the webers to someone who likes the smell of gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[michael7810]

I you don't want to look at it, you can put it in my garage in Scottsdale...just leave the title and I'll take good care of it.

Hey Michael: We need to connect this winter when I take the cover off of this pig.

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Sounds good. I'm usually around in the winter. Let me know if you need help with the car (strictly labor; the only thing I know about a six is that it's 2 more than IV).

[Larmo63]

Make sure you get a luggage rack to go along with your new Subaru motor.

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[GeorgeRud]

It certainly would help to switch to EFI as I don't think Webers do so well with ethanol laced fuels. However, once properly tuned, this engine should sing. A Subaru conversion will always be a bit of a bastard child and will eventually decrease the resale value.

[Steve]

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It would be simpler to have evil rebuild your trans and just add efi versus a Subaru build.
Vegas racer has a 3.0 with factory injection. He drives that thing everywhere and also races it. Do a search on the injection. There are ways to modify the injection without cutting up the car. I miss my Weber's, but I don't miss the hassle of keeping them running.

[forrestkhaag]

Some of you guys must have missed the Subaru picture in my first post / it was of a Subaru powered pressure washer........... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) .

For the same reason that my cat doesn't date dogs, in a million years I would never put a Japanese engine in a German car - just my cats' and my opinion however as I know of a couple of nice Suby conversions out there.