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Show of your roll cages, what are the best roll cages? |
Oliver |
May 18 2005, 12:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 7-May 05 From: Portland, Or Member No.: 4,038 |
I have a project car looking for a roll cage and I'am 6'4 250 looking to make is race safe...
Pic's and cost's helpfull.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blowtorch.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) Ps I hope to make it and me race ready for portland its not far to drive... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
Brad Roberts |
May 18 2005, 12:05 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
When I went looking for roll cage fab guy's I stopped with one person here in the SF bay area: TC Design. I *think* he did 8-10 914 cages for me and probably has dopne at least another 8-10 914 cages since then.
He has come a long way. http://www.tcdesignfab.com/ B |
SirAndy |
May 18 2005, 01:29 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,658 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
i second that! tony did my cage, and he did an awesome job (and i got an "early" style, they're even better by now) ... http://www.sirandy.com/projects/cars/20020901.asp from my personal webpage at http://www.sirandy.com/projects/cars/ (click "Pictures", then "Early September 2002, she got a nice new roll-cage ... ") ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy |
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ChrisFoley |
May 18 2005, 04:48 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,933 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Go with a well built custom roll cage, preferably from someone who knows 914s and sports car racing. Since you're a big guy there are no bolt in products that you will feel comfortable or safe with, I guarantee. It is well worth transporting your car a good distance to get what you need. If SF is too far away look for SCCA members in your area for advice on where to go. There are a some online forums where SCCA members chat. Here and here are a couple.
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sixnotfour |
May 18 2005, 05:15 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,433 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Here is a local guy to check out, Brad prob. knows him Jeff Gamroth
He's done several 911/914 or has someone do em for him. Rothsport Road & Race 19870 Sw 129th Ave Tualatin, OR 97062-7317 |
Eddie914 |
May 18 2005, 06:02 AM
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Oliver,
Here is another: RaceTech Fabrication 11077 N Vancouver Way Portland, OR 97217 (503) 254-6706 www.racetechfab.com Eddie |
Eddie914 |
May 18 2005, 06:03 AM
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slivel |
May 18 2005, 08:21 AM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
Since your physical size could cause a safety issue, my recommendation is to take the time to be very involved in the fab process. For this to work you have to have a fabricator that is willing to have you present during some of the build process. This should almost be like getting fitted for a new suit. A good fabricator will have you sit in the car take measurments and try to get maximum clearance from the hoops to your head. Also take in account the added dimension of roll bar padding. Last but not least please be aware that a full cage can be a hazzard in street driving when you are not wearing a helmet. A small street collision when you thunk your unprotected head against a roll hoop can be fatal.
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Oliver |
May 18 2005, 12:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 7-May 05 From: Portland, Or Member No.: 4,038 |
Thanks for all the advices.. It might be a while some one had just flatend my tires on my truck there goes cage money for now...
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Rand |
May 18 2005, 01:14 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Questions about the bar going forward past the front of the door...
Some go just to the inside of the fenderwell like the photo below. Some go all the way through and tie into the top of the shock tower. Is that enough better to be worth doing? Some don't run a bar forward from there at all. Is it not beneficial enough to be worth doing? (IMG:http://www.tcdesignfab.com/jon-6.jpg) |
Jake Raby |
May 18 2005, 01:20 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have a Chris Foley Roll Cage in my 914 and it absolutely rocks and it fits nicely with the stock backpad in place..
Chris' cage has had a ton of thought put into it and it's definately clear that his racing has rubbed off on it's design! My car is WAY stiffer than it used to be and handles a ton better than it did before the cage.. |
iamchappy |
May 18 2005, 01:27 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
With all the talk about cages I think I may reinstall mine now, I will have to make changes in my autopower cage to accommodate the back pad. Why have it just sitting in the shed when I can work it back into the car.
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Mueller |
May 18 2005, 01:30 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
those questions fall into the "read the rule book" catagory (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) there are different classes (and regions) that the cage should be built to...if the car will never be run in a sanctioned event, then it's up the cage builder to know and understand what every single tube is doing and how it will impact the structure.....make sure you interview* the cage builder and find out "why" he does certain things....being a good welder does not mean he is a good cage builder (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) *run away if he says that is how they do it in the magazines (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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Rand |
May 18 2005, 01:58 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Ok, rulebooks and classes aside... I want to know how it affects the strength of the car. Does running that bar to the shock tower instead of stopping at the fenderwell make a lot of functional difference? If not, I will just stop at the fenderwell. Since a lot of cages don't run this bar at all, is that purely because of a rule/class limitation or does it not really make enough functional difference to bother with it?
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Mueller |
May 18 2005, 02:08 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
yes, running tubes to the suspension points will be better than not attaching to them...... i believe it's mostly due to rules....a bolted in cage and a welded in cage can be run in a lot of the same classes, it would be easier/safer to make a weld in cage attach to the suspension points than the bolt in cage...the rules do not want to favor one design over the other.. |
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lapuwali |
May 18 2005, 02:37 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Some rules DO want to favor one over the other. They want you to use the cage only for driver safety, not as a method of stiffening the car substantially for handling purposes. If you have the choice, tie the cage to the suspension mounts whereever possible. It can make a very big difference to how the car handles, and how tunable the suspension ends up being.
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spare time toys |
May 18 2005, 03:17 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I got the UGLYEST one in the club (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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Mueller |
May 18 2005, 03:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
and depending on how the tubes we cannot see are fab'd, possibly the most dangerous one (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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