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> no power at high speed, around 50mph....
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post May 19 2005, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (James Adams @ May 19 2005, 11:56 AM)
What was the last thing you touched before the problem started?

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post May 19 2005, 10:53 AM
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Maybe you need 4 more cyl. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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post May 19 2005, 02:04 PM
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When you are finally done screwing around with that Broken Dizzy please ask me to send you mine.
If it runs good vacuum line disconnected and runs like crap 300 rpm with the hoses connected YOU HAVE A BLOWN DIAPHRAM IN THE ADVANCE UNIT.

I and the rest here will be so happy when you break down and put good parts in your car. 120 MPH in my teener last sunday. held it there for about 3 minutes till I caught the next traffic group. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) But I don't know what I 'm doing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)
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post May 19 2005, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Ricard @ May 19 2005, 02:04 PM)
When you are finally done screwing around with that Broken Dizzy please ask me to send you mine.
If it runs good vacuum line disconnected and runs like crap 300 rpm with the hoses connected YOU HAVE A BLOWN DIAPHRAM IN THE ADVANCE UNIT.

I and the rest here will be so happy when you break down and put good parts in your car. 120 MPH in my teener last sunday. held it there for about 3 minutes till I caught the next traffic group. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) But I don't know what I 'm doing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)

okay joe...you win. how much $$$ for a good dizzy?
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post May 19 2005, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Ricard @ May 19 2005, 01:04 PM)
When you are finally done screwing around with that Broken Dizzy please ask me to send you mine.
If it runs good vacuum line disconnected and runs like crap 300 rpm with the hoses connected YOU HAVE A BLOWN DIAPHRAM IN THE ADVANCE UNIT.

I and the rest here will be so happy when you break down and put good parts in your car. 120 MPH in my teener last sunday. held it there for about 3 minutes till I caught the next traffic group. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) But I don't know what I 'm doing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)

I agree, seems like djet related problems usually occur only at idle, or affect all RPMs something this RPM specific is probably ignition related. Do a complete dizzy swap, and make SURE the hoses are in the right spots.
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post May 19 2005, 04:35 PM
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the idle isnt the issue though...the issue is the lack of power. I will try a dizzy swap. 1.7 dizzy's arent compatable with 2.0 dizzy's right...due to the difference in circumference of the dizzy body??
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post May 19 2005, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 19 2005, 03:35 PM)
the idle isnt the issue though...the issue is the lack of power. I will try a dizzy swap. 1.7 dizzy's arent compatable with 2.0 dizzy's right...due to the difference in circumference of the dizzy body??

I'm pretty sure the diameters are the same. Advance curves may be different, but not by enough to keep it from running. As long as it has the trigger points in the base, it should work, at least enough to see if you have a dizzy problem.
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post May 19 2005, 05:24 PM
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yeah, i just thought the rotational diameter would be different, due to the difference in plug firing(time between cylinder fire)....but i guess i was wrong....lemme pop in my 1.7 dizzy then....
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post May 19 2005, 05:56 PM
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i'm grasping at straws here.......
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post May 19 2005, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 19 2005, 04:24 PM)
yeah, i just thought the rotational diameter would be different, due to the difference in plug firing(time between cylinder fire)....but i guess i was wrong....lemme pop in my 1.7 dizzy then....

i don't know what the heck you guys smoke back there, but boy, you should be selling it on eBay and making a fortune (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif)

if you did any research, you'd notice that the 1.7, 1.8 and 2.0 all share the same cap, rotor and other consumables.....
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post May 19 2005, 06:02 PM
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it's the air man.....and the reformulated gas. i'm putting in my 1.7 dizzy then.
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post May 19 2005, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ May 19 2005, 05:00 PM)
QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 19 2005, 04:24 PM)
yeah, i just thought the rotational diameter would be different, due to the difference in plug firing(time between cylinder fire)....but i guess i was wrong....lemme pop in my 1.7 dizzy then....

i don't know what the heck you guys smoke back there, but boy, you should be selling it on eBay and making a fortune (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif)

if you did any research, you'd notice that the 1.7, 1.8 and 2.0 all share the same cap, rotor and other consumables.....

I got high just reading that! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif)
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post May 19 2005, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 19 2005, 05:21 PM)
okay joe...you win. how much $$$ for a good dizzy?

Woah, wait a minute ... haven't we covered this dizzy issue with a couple hundred posts a dozen threads ago already? And STILL again with the dizzy?

Anybody else getting dizzy? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post May 19 2005, 06:14 PM
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Bet a dollar when this gets fixed completely, the points would be reliable again. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Not that you'd want to put them back in...
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post May 19 2005, 06:15 PM
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i dunno...everything looks great inside of that distributor.....all oiled and sexy and such, but still all i get is hassle....
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post May 19 2005, 06:15 PM
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Put the 1.7 dizzy in as they are damn near the same other than minor advance differences (so what).
After you get it in and set the proper timing, check the spark on a extra plug by pulling the #1 plug wire and putting on the extra plug which is grounded to the engine good. Have your helper turn over the engine while you look at the spark. It should be bright and a good clear spark.
Now that its running, check the fuel pressure witha pressure gauge. should be 29lbs.

Take it for a test drive.

BTW if the vacuum advance blows out its not that critical as the dizzy is mostly mechanical advance. The weights do stick and the advance won't work, so the engine has not much power do to the timing being stuck at 5 degrees AFTDC
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post May 19 2005, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (redshift @ May 19 2005, 11:25 AM)
QUOTE (James Adams @ May 19 2005, 11:56 AM)
What was the last thing you touched before the problem started?

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Ok, before you touched Miles (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) , what was the last thing ON THE CAR you changed before you had this problem?
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post May 19 2005, 08:15 PM
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he's jealous that i have a better looking goat than he does
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post May 19 2005, 09:05 PM
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you're gasping at straws because -- it seems to me -- you are not troubleshooting ultra-methodically. your car's problems could be any multitude of things. you'll never know until you STOP throwing parts at it and start throwing tools, knowledge, research, and logic at it.


maybe that's just a false impression i've got, though. good luck, bro (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
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post May 19 2005, 09:10 PM
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thanks
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