Easy as 1 2 3, Got it yesterday, pushed all projects aside! Options

[mgphoto]

Got the 123Ignition yesterday, I pushed all of my projects back!
"Sorry granny I'll get to those bearings on your heart/lung machine soon, I promise."
Blocked out 3 hours for the removal and install.
Added about an hour to charge the battery.
Installed as expected, there is a spacer that is necessary for type 4, just slides over the dizzy shaft.
I decided to route the wires and vacuum away from the fan so access to the vacuum nipple was easier, since the vacuum can is gone there's a lot more space.
Followed the instructions but made the mistake of using the TDC 0* instead of the 27* as the basic timing point. I just walked the dizzy CCW until she started!
Didn't do anything other than matched my timing with my idle, I let her run till she settled down.
Just around the block once, ha ha the trailer hitching is GONE!
Responsive throttle, man!
Setting up a tuning session, nice 150 mile run up the California coast with the AFR meter.
Mike

[76-914]

Got the 123Ignition yesterday, I pushed all of my projects back!
"Sorry granny I'll get to those bearings on your heart/lung machine soon, I promise."
Blocked out 3 hours for the removal and install.
Added about an hour to charge the battery.
Installed as expected, there is a spacer that is necessary for type 4, just slides over the dizzy shaft.
I decided to route the wires and vacuum away from the fan so access to the vacuum nipple was easier, since the vacuum can is gone there's a lot more space.
Followed the instructions but made the mistake of using the TDC 0* instead of the 27* as the basic timing point. I just walked the dizzy CCW until she started!
Didn't do anything other than matched my timing with my idle, I let her run till she settled down.
Just around the block once, ha ha the trailer hitching is GONE!
Responsive throttle, man!
Setting up a tuning session, nice 150 mile run up the California coast with the AFR meter.
Mike

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[Porschef]

What was the distributor that you replaced with the 123?

[mgphoto]

What was the distributor that you replaced with the 123?

205A

HaHa...

[Montreal914]

Nice!
What's your engine, induction system?

[Mblizzard]

Really liked my 1 2 3. Did you get the programmable one?

I found the indicator on the switch exceptionally difficult to be sure which setting was selected but other than that it was flawless. I have the one with the electronic trigger points!

[mgphoto]

Nice!
What's your engine, induction system?

'74 D-Jet with matching bits.

[StratPlayer]

Been running my 123 dist. for about a year now, money well spent, 76 D Jet 2056.

[pete000]

This has been on my want list for a while now.

Wheres the best place to get one?

[Porschef]

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[StratPlayer]

I bought mine from the manufacturer.

[mgphoto]

This has been on my want list for a while now.

Wheres the best place to get one?

bought mine at 123ignitionusa.com

Authorized USA retailer.

[mgphoto]

Really liked my 1 2 3. Did you get the programmable one?

I found the indicator on the switch exceptionally difficult to be sure which setting was selected but other than that it was flawless. I have the one with the electronic trigger points!

I'm limited to the D-Jet version, after putting all the facts together I used the "B" setting 174 011 with vacuum retard only.

[914_teener]

Really liked my 1 2 3. Did you get the programmable one?

I found the indicator on the switch exceptionally difficult to be sure which setting was selected but other than that it was flawless. I have the one with the electronic trigger points!

I'm limited to the D-Jet version, after putting all the facts together I used the "B" setting 174 011 with vacuum retard only.

I don't see any way to determine what to get unless you map the original dizzy to the setting?

I'd get this if I ever have to replace trigger points.

[mgphoto]

Now for the ugly.

I am Sorry, I am SORRY, I AM SORRY!

And now I have to take her out to dinner. My bad.


I had my wife help with timing the engine.
Roughly a five hand job, our four didn't do to well. Lots of screaming and nashing of teeth, hence the dinner out.

But that was this morning, let's go back to yesterday.

I got the itch to take it for a ride, something short just buzz the freeway a bit.

Not a good idea.
She seemed to run ok at the start, cold engine, but I hit the highway and up to 3k and a lot of ping. OK keep it under 3k and just cruise.

But as the engine got hotter she ran worse, felt like a short or loose wire in the FI or ignition.

OK take her home, dame now I'm in bumper to bumper traffic, this is karma, I should have greased Nana bearings.

Got the car home and gave up for the night.

Come Saturday morning all things new and fresh!

"I'll get to those squeaky bearings today Gramm, I promise"


"Honey pie, can you help me with the car?"
I said to the wife, she knew something was up.

It's simple, you just have to hold the tach at 3500 rpm and listen for me to say stop!

"What was the word to stop?"

Stop sweety!


Well after about a half hour of screaming STOP, now go, STOP, no go!
Some neighbors gathered wispering and pointing at the crazy couple yelling STOP, now go.


My wife was mad.
I got the timing set.


After promising dinner out, I took the car for a short run on the freeway.
OK wack the throttle, no ping! But as the rpms go up I feel a hesitation, sort of.
It feels like a short, loose connector, plug wire, same as yesterday.

OK back home, look for the loose connection.


Looking at the install manual I see the spec page on the inside cover.
As I scan down I see the temp specs, "?"
-30*C to 95*C

OK -30*C is not going to happen here in Los Angeles but 95*C is about 195*F which is the oil temp my car likes to produce on an up hill run.
Have I found the Achillie's heel of this device?
OK above the Artic Circle but here at "almost the equator" we got issues.
I'll keep you posted.

[pete000]

Mine likes to run around 210 on the oil...

[Porschef]

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[mgphoto]

OK so I am going through the ignition wiring, the wire on cyl # 2 is pulled away from the spark plug connector about 1/4 inch, ah ha, this could be the reason for the miss.

"Granny I'll be back in a few, just need to get some gas and put a few miles on the car to see if it's running ok. Wow she has finaly quieted down."

5 gallons premium and off to the 118 freeway. Oil temp still cool, running nice accelerates smoothly.

Oil temps coming up, freeway speed 80mph, as I look at the oil temp gauge, 185*F, just about 8 miles and....

something changed, loosing power, missing.

Pull over, check wiring. Cyl #4 spark plug connector, disconnected completely.
Reconnect and we're off again.

Few miles feels ok, then, the same missing, losing power. Plug wire came off again?

Pull over and wires seem fine.
looking closer I see the vacuum line has come loose from the dizzy, lets try again.

That didn't help much it has the same strange missing, sort of a intermittent connection.

I give up for now.

[iankarr]

Maybe a coil that's on its way out? Mine behaved the same as you describe. Replaced with a new one and all was well...

[VaccaRabite]

Ive got the 123 for my Bmw2002. I have yet to put it in, but I'm excited about it.

For yours on your car, you can tune these beyond just setting the timing. Actually get mapping and can reset the curve to get the most out of your ignition. My guess is that you have a little tuning to do.

Also, the operating temps should not be a concern. I think the -30C to 95C is ambient temps, not engine oil temps. The ignition module is on the cool side of the engine tins, and it was designed for the more cramped bug engine bay. That said, contact 123. See what they have to say. From what I have read on the BMW forums, their people are really helpful. If I did not already have crankfire on my 914, I'd be getting one of these unites for my 914 too.

Zach