 COA question, What does Porsche list on a COA? |
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| fixer34 |
 Sep 28 2017, 09:13 PM
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This COA was shown with a car in the classifieds section. I'm curious about a couple items listed.
Radio-I thought ALL radios were dealer installed, how would Porsche know which one the dealer added to a car? Bilstein shocks-weren't those standard? Vented brake rotors-likewise, weren't fronts standard on a /6?  |
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| Pursang |
Sep 28 2017, 11:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 19-January 13 From: Beaverton Member No.: 15,386 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't know the answer to your questions but I have one of my own; how does one get a COA in the first place?
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| infraredcalvin |
Sep 29 2017, 12:29 AM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,517 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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| r_towle |
Sep 29 2017, 07:27 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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The records for the 356 were all on codex cards, hand transferred to these COA documents.
It may be possible that the data collection from the dealerships sent back to HQ got much better in the 70's versus the 60's. That may explain dealer installed options showing up on these COA documents. |
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| Tom_T |
Sep 29 2017, 08:13 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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See my comments inserted into your message in blue below....
QUOTE(fixer34 @ Sep 28 2017, 08:13 PM)  This COA was shown with a car in the classifieds section. I'm curious about a couple items listed. Radio-I thought ALL radios were dealer installed, how would Porsche know which one the dealer added to a car? No, there were rarely factory ordered radios. See Jeff Bowlsby's 914 site options section for the option number on the radios & these other options. Bilstein shocks-weren't those standard? I know that the base/stock was Boge (black) shocks & struts for the 4's, & AFAIK for the 6's too - but maybe a six-pert can confirm that here. Also check at Jeff's option list. Vented brake rotors-likewise, weren't fronts standard on a /6? I don't think they were stock on a 6, but check on Jeff's listing, & hopefully a 6-pert will chime in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| Racer |
Sep 29 2017, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
COA's have changed over the years in appearance and what they share. The one pictured from 16 yrs ago is formatted differently from today's. That said:
radios were available from the factory. boge struts were standard, bilsteins optional. 6's have vented front rotors, solid rear rotors. Kinda like when you read a new car window sticker and they put things like "wheels" or "seats" as standard. no shit sherlock. I am told nowadays, you need to supply the engine # of the car in question, and when they create the COA they add next to it only if that number is matching or not, rather than tell you the number it should have. |
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| burton73 |
Sep 29 2017, 11:07 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,525 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California
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Not a lot of info on #41. from Feb, 2007
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| Coondog |
Sep 29 2017, 11:59 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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Kinda on the fence about ordering one, really what's it going to tell me that I don't already know... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| 914_7T3 |
Sep 29 2017, 12:53 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,853 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Sep 29 2017, 10:07 AM) Not a lot of info on #41. from Feb, 2007 Bob B Same for me from May of this year. Although will be contacting Porsche to update it to the correct color L96M on the chassis plate.  |
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| GeorgeRud |
Sep 29 2017, 01:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Pretty much worthless unless you're competing in a PCA Concours.
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| burton73 |
Sep 29 2017, 02:12 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,525 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California
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If your six has it original Eng. you have the number from the factory. More than bragging rites to some buyers. I don’t have the original Eng. but I knew that, as I had the original service book with my car so I had dates and numbers. My COA did not have as much info as others. I do not know if that was because my car was so early?
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| bbrock |
Sep 29 2017, 05:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE(burton73 @ Sep 29 2017, 02:12 PM) If your six has it original Eng. you have the number from the factory. More than bragging rites to some buyers. I don’t have the original Eng. but I knew that, as I had the original service book with my car so I had dates and numbers. My COA did not have as much info as others. I do not know if that was because my car was so early? Bob B If you do have the original engine, will the COA confirm it? I have no reason to believe my engine isn't the original so was hoping a COA would confirm. Also looking for confirmation that my car came with performance group but NOT appearance group. If not, then I'll need to alter my restoration plan a little. I also have the original warranty/service book but they didn't bother to fill in the engine number. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) |
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| fixer34 |
Sep 29 2017, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 29 2017, 06:22 PM) QUOTE(burton73 @ Sep 29 2017, 02:12 PM) If your six has it original Eng. you have the number from the factory. More than bragging rites to some buyers. I don’t have the original Eng. but I knew that, as I had the original service book with my car so I had dates and numbers. My COA did not have as much info as others. I do not know if that was because my car was so early? Bob B If you do have the original engine, will the COA confirm it? I have no reason to believe my engine isn't the original so was hoping a COA would confirm. Also looking for confirmation that my car came with performance group but NOT appearance group. If not, then I'll need to alter my restoration plan a little. I also have the original warranty/service book but they didn't bother to fill in the engine number. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) I ordered my COA in April 2016. I sent a note with the request form listing every number I could find on the car. My COA came back with a transmission number listed which I understand is very rare; I'm assuming that either the number matched their records or was in the allowable date range, so they included it. There has been some other discussion on here about engine numbers, I think if the number you provide doesn't match their records, they will either leave it blank or fill in what they have listed. As to value of the COA, some day my car will get sold. Either by me or my heirs. Matching/original numbers still commands a premium, so for the $100 it costs for a COA, I figured it was worth it. |
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| 914_7T3 |
Sep 29 2017, 06:04 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,853 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(fixer34 @ Sep 29 2017, 04:39 PM) QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 29 2017, 06:22 PM) QUOTE(burton73 @ Sep 29 2017, 02:12 PM) If your six has it original Eng. you have the number from the factory. More than bragging rites to some buyers. I don’t have the original Eng. but I knew that, as I had the original service book with my car so I had dates and numbers. My COA did not have as much info as others. I do not know if that was because my car was so early? Bob B I also have the original warranty/service book but they didn't bother to fill in the engine number. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) As to value of the COA, some day my car will get sold. Either by me or my heirs. Matching/original numbers still commands a premium, so for the $100 it costs for a COA, I figured it was worth it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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