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mmascari
post Oct 1 2017, 07:38 PM
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At some point I would like to install steel flares on my car but due to the cost I am thinking about buying a set of fiberglass flares and rivet them on. I assume the cut you make to the stock fender for the fiberglass flares would be the same as the steel flares. Would I just purchase the fiberglass flares, for example, from Auto Atlanta or is there a kit you can purchase that includes flares with the rivets? Here is an example I found on this site.


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post Oct 1 2017, 07:44 PM
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The cut is NOT the same.

Steel flares get butt welded to the fender, so the cut diameter is larger than fiberglass.
Using fiberglass flares you overlap the flares and bond them to the fender.
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 1 2017, 06:44 PM) *

The cut is NOT the same.

Steel flares get butt welded to the fender, so the cut diameter is larger than fiberglass.
Using fiberglass flares you overlap the flares and bond them to the fender.



That makes sense. I suppose if they get riveted there has to be some material on the other side to rivet the flare to.
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:51 PM
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Rivets are sometimes used to clamp them while the glue dries.
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:55 PM
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If you want to rivet without any bonding, use large rivets to spread the load, otherwise the FG can crack. IMHO, they also do look better.
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post Oct 2 2017, 01:30 AM
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I bought my first 914 with riveted on flares. Almost 20 years later and the same rivets are holding the fenders on. I guess if it aint broke...

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I believe the "kit" used to install them this way is available at home depot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If you want to see some really cool (in my opinion) non permanent fender attachment check out Elliot's car.

Also ask him to show you his watch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Oct 2 2017, 07:03 AM
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Or you can use bolts, washers, nuts. Handy to remove them to access suspension parts.
FG flares are a lot of work. They will need to be trimmed and shaped to be symmetrical. Then if you intend to leave the rivets or bolts exposed they need to be spaced equally IMHO, or they look goofy...

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post Oct 2 2017, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 1 2017, 10:55 PM) *

If you want to rivet without any bonding, use large rivets to spread the load, otherwise the FG can crack. IMHO, they also do look better.
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Mine are welded of course, but I agree. The riveted or bolted FG flares look gnarly cool! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
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post Oct 2 2017, 12:28 PM
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I used stainless security bolts to put mine on.

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post Oct 2 2017, 12:31 PM
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So who makes the best quality FG flares?

I thought QRS used to offer them but they aren't listed on their site.
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post Oct 2 2017, 12:34 PM
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I purchased mine from Patrick Motorsports. I thought the quality was pretty good. Just a little work on them for a nice fit. I used the fender welting on mine so I did not need a perfect fit.
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post Oct 2 2017, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(JP3 @ Oct 2 2017, 11:34 AM) *

I purchased mine from Patrick Motorsports. I thought the quality was pretty good. Just a little work on them for a nice fit. I used the fender welting on mine so I did not need a perfect fit.


Awesome, thanks!
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post Oct 2 2017, 01:52 PM
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My Outlaw car came with the riveted flares, but I've gone back and forth about whether I like them over steel flares. I think it fits the attitude of the car, but if I had the chance to decide, I might opt for the steel flares. I might try to paint the rivets black and see if they blend better.

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post Oct 2 2017, 03:46 PM
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Anyone rivet metal flares on?

For a true outlaw look I think it would be neat to use metal flares welded on however use a TIG and leave the welds with no grinding or filler so it would look like stitches (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 2 2017, 04:09 PM
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Metal or rivet on fiberglass, 914 flares look awful (IMHO) with the warts tacked back on afterwards.

Terrible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif)
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post Oct 2 2017, 08:07 PM
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These are Porsche factory steel flares riveted on, and they look really good.
Craig at CAMP


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post Oct 2 2017, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(boxstr @ Oct 2 2017, 07:07 PM) *

These are Porsche factory steel flares riveted on, and they look really good.
Craig at CAMP


It’s settled / I’m painting my rivets black. Looks great.
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post Oct 3 2017, 08:51 AM
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I agree with the folks that said the rivets with welting looks awesome.

If it were me, I'd use dzus fasteners so you could remove the flares for service, etc. One of those tings that once you use them once, its hard to imagine using anything else.

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post Oct 3 2017, 12:07 PM
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Removable flares really don't make the easier any easier to work on however, they do reduce bodywork required and can be installed without repainting the car. This last bit is a huge advantage. I can't tell in the pics but some fender welting / beading would help seal the flare so water does not splash through the seam.
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post Oct 3 2017, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(DM_2000 @ Oct 3 2017, 03:07 PM) *

Removable flares really don't make the easier any easier to work on however, they do reduce bodywork required and can be installed without repainting the car. This last bit is a huge advantage. I can't tell in the pics but some fender welting / beading would help seal the flare so water does not splash through the seam.


All told, you can have upwards of $4000 into welded on steel so rivit or bonded fiberglass starts to look really good as an alternative...
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